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CraigDrums
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1789 Posts |
 Posted - 15/09/2011 : 04:44:29
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Good morning all, I'm Very excited, honoured and privileged to be doing one of the first clinics worldwide featuring the Roland SPD-Sx at music Moscow today, a very proud moment. I've had a prototype for a couple of weeks and can honestly say it's incredible and blows everything out the water, I'll be showing it in Manchester next Tuesday evening on the dawsons clinics and a few up and down the country. I'll post pics and vids soon..
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Prog
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
21202 Posts |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 07:07:36
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| As I said in another thread, I want one? Any idea of pricing? |
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benjisonfire
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
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Bewdy
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
841 Posts |
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Bewdy
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
841 Posts |
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gazdkw82
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
2468 Posts |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 15:33:19
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im so excited about this!
please tell me it has a click function
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Prog
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
21202 Posts |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 15:59:10
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| It has a click function. Even better, it has a separate output. |
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Mooncat
Advanced Contributer
446 Posts |
Posted - 15/09/2011 : 16:11:57
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Looks the mutt's wotsits.
Will be getting one as soon as funds allow.
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Cuban
Advanced Contributer
998 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 00:47:58
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Awesome upgrade!
There are some big improvements here - The pad indicator, click option, USB loading and Wave Manager software are big steps forward and six hours of samples, that is massive!  |
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ornby
Advanced Contributer
590 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 02:27:44
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USB loading...luxury!
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CraigDrums
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1789 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 04:35:10
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Headphone volume on the front next to master volume and click volume
I'll write a little blog and some video on it when I'm back in the UK
on Monday to answer your questions
The things that I've noticed since I've had the unit which I really like is;
The effects are brilliant
Click options are massive
Drag and drop function in the the software is brilliant
Separate output assignability is great
Shortcut buttons under the screen are invaluable for separate pad volumes and editing etc
Having a kit chain is great for live work
Footswitch function
The three ways to input samples are all very easy
The whole unit is very user friendly and very powerful
Yes I'll be doing quite a lot of gigs prior to it's release in the UK and Europe so try and get to em if you can
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gazdkw82
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
2468 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 08:31:45
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quote:
Originally posted by CraigDrums
Headphone volume on the front next to master volume and click volume
I'll write a little blog and some video on it when I'm back in the UK
on Monday to answer your questions
The things that I've noticed since I've had the unit which I really like is;
The effects are brilliant
Click options are massive
Drag and drop function in the the software is brilliant
Separate output assignability is great
Shortcut buttons under the screen are invaluable for separate pad volumes and editing etc
Having a kit chain is great for live work
Footswitch function
The three ways to input samples are all very easy
The whole unit is very user friendly and very powerful
Yes I'll be doing quite a lot of gigs prior to it's release in the UK and Europe so try and get to em if you can
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Bewdy
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
841 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 15:25:36
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| and how is pitch shifting handled on the new device craig? is it any better than that bizarre time stretching algorithm that they used to use? so strange as drop a sound up or down a few semi tones should be the easiest thing in the world yet roland have some propriety unintuitive % adjustment, which only yields horrible results. Unless I'm missing something on the old device. |
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MarkMooch
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1411 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 16:01:41
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I'm definitely thinking of up grading from the SPD-S and buying one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09zKK7sTwSM
Roland seemed to have listened to their product users/customers in order to make improvements to the instrument. The main improvement has got to be the quicker and easier method for direct sampling / using samples, especially when it comes to getting them from your computer or USB. Plus there are now 4 trigger pad in-puts, increased trigger sensitivity, internal metronome (re-route-able), pad lights, pad divider lines, increased MIDI functionality, 2 effects controllers / 3 effects engines, sub output. That's awesome, just what the SPD-S needed!
As yet there is no word on what sounds it comes with, making loops, resampling which I'd be particularly interested to know about, but one can only assume it is again an improvement on the SPD-S. I'm keen to know if it also has some of the functions of the Yamaha DTX Multi-12, i.e. different play modes (ticks, hands, fingers including mute with the other hand etc), Multi assignable pads (stack mode, alternate mode).
Apparently they are going to be selling for £499 which makes me wonder whether it's a bit of a bargain or just a fair price as opposed to if it was selling for £600 where one would presume there's nothing better. What would be awesome if you could make loops as easy as the Octapad and play as expressively as the Handsonic, we will have to wait and see. I know Craig Blundells got one already and is very impressed, he was honest about the arduous looping procedure on the Roland SPD-S when I met him earlier in the year even though he has two him self!
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CraigDrums
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1789 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 16:03:32
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Hopefully November
Yes the pitch shifting and s.loop function are brilliant
It's going down a storm here in russia
I'm doing about 15 dates in the UK prior to release, hope you guys can make some. You really have to see it in the flesh, I know I'm biased but it's very special |
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Prog
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
21202 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 16:20:17
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| Can the click be started from a pad along with a sample ie backing track? If so, it would mean that stereo backing tracks are possible as there would no longer be any need for a click in one channel. |
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berriman
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1134 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 16:52:13
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Why am I thinking this could replace my Click Station?
Click and samples all in one handy little package. Yes please. |
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Prog
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
21202 Posts |
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chevvies
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
349 Posts |
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CraigDrums
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1789 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 20:53:11
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CraigDrums
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1789 Posts |
Posted - 16/09/2011 : 20:53:43
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| Yes chevvies |
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Prog
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
21202 Posts |
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logic_user99
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
10150 Posts |
Posted - 17/09/2011 : 09:08:21
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I am now very glad I didn't drop £350 on a used SPD-S a few months ago. This looks like the business. Brilliant, Craig!
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Prog
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
21202 Posts |
Posted - 17/09/2011 : 10:20:03
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| It's now available to order from a few places, all at £499. |
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MarkMooch
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1411 Posts |
Posted - 17/09/2011 : 22:40:07
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Originally posted by Prog
It's now available to order from a few places, all at £499.
Is that order or pre-order? I.e. can I get it now? |
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Prog
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
21202 Posts |
Posted - 17/09/2011 : 22:48:27
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| It's not out until next month but you can order one in advance. |
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Unkle Kev
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1460 Posts |
Posted - 18/09/2011 : 11:29:45
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More to the point, can certain people on here who have been promoting the SPD-S and advising punters on how to use it for a number of years get a discount on the new SPD-SX in recognition of their services to Roland? 
My SPD-S with accessories is already up for sale. I'm not saying where, but you won't have to look far.... 
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Chris_
New Contributer
34 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2011 : 00:58:27
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Hi Craig,
Can you told me if there is improvement on the trigger function, in the spd-s there is Velocity Switch A and B, 2 sound only can be switching with velocity, any new things in the spd-sx trigger pad which are better then the spd-s? there is pad pattern available?
Can we plays waves with the USB stick? (expand the 2gig internal memory, similar to use CF cards with Spd-s)
Also, trigger via midi, in the spd-s we are limited to the amount of pad and external pad to trigs sound via midi, now in the spd-sx, can we trigs via midi 6 octave of wav mapping?, or still limited of the amount of pad and external pad? |
Kind Regards
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OriginalAnimal
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
19310 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2011 : 10:43:01
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I'm not sure if i read this correctly, you can import from a memory stick, but can you play directly from that memory stick?
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CraigDrums
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1789 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2011 : 11:17:38
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Hey guys, I'm snowed under with work at the mo and without sounding off, I'm inundated with hundreds of emails since its release on thursday that I just don't have time to answer, I'm just a working muso! Chris, I can't give Roland Tech support/specs etc due to time. I hope you understand, I would be here all day. If I get some down time I'm happy to answer some Q's or feel free to come to one of the events over the next couple of months and try it for yourself
I'm doing a video shoot on it over the next few weeks, hopefully that will answer your Q's
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OriginalAnimal
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
19310 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2011 : 12:14:42
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| No worries Craig, apologies for the questions, you take care xx |
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CraigDrums
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1789 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2011 : 12:21:37
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| You import from the memory stick onto the SPD-Sx (you can assign from the on board editor) |
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CraigDrums
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1789 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2011 : 13:09:29
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| You import from the memory stick onto the SPD-Sx (you can assign from the on board editor) |
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Unkle Kev
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1460 Posts |
Posted - 22/09/2011 : 09:33:43
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quote:
Originally posted by Unkle Kev
More to the point, can certain people on here who have been promoting the SPD-S and advising punters on how to use it for a number of years get a discount on the new SPD-SX in recognition of their services to Roland?
My SPD-S with accessories is already up for sale. I'm not saying where, but you won't have to look far....
It took 24 hours for my trusty old SPD-S to go to a new home. Now to order my shiny new SPD-Sx.  |
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Alpine
New Contributer
Canada
18 Posts |
Posted - 22/09/2011 : 09:45:39
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| It will be interesting to see if Yamaha releases an upgrade for the DTX12! |
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Unkle Kev
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1460 Posts |
Posted - 23/09/2011 : 16:58:03
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| Craid, I was in GG Digital ordering my SPD-Sx today and they said you were in Glasgow on October 22nd doing something. Any details my good man? |
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CraigDrums
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1789 Posts |
Posted - 23/09/2011 : 20:04:49
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| Hi Kev, yeah I'm up there doing a few clinics, with the spds too, that's all I know at the mo |
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Unkle Kev
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1460 Posts |
Posted - 23/09/2011 : 21:34:06
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| Look forward to it. Enjoy your weekend. |
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Alpine
New Contributer
Canada
18 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2011 : 11:42:40
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It is disappointing the external inputs on the SPD-SX do not include a HH CTRL, otherwise the specs look great.
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Hi Kev, yeah I'm up there doing a few clinics, with the spds too, that's all I know at the mo
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Chris_
New Contributer
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Posted - 24/09/2011 : 17:58:39
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Originally posted by Alpine
It is disappointing the external inputs on the SPD-SX do not include a HH CTRL, otherwise the specs look great.
quote:
Originally posted by CraigDrums
Hi Kev, yeah I'm up there doing a few clinics, with the spds too, that's all I know at the mo
I think there is no hi-hat and expressions control, since in the spd-sx accessories page, there is no hi-hat controller and expressions pedal, it told everything, in the spd-s page, there was hihat and expressions control option in the web accessories page |
Kind Regards
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Unkle Kev
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1460 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2011 : 20:52:00
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| Damn it, it doesn't have a cocktail function either. Not able to make me a martini? Cancel my order! ;-) |
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Alpine
New Contributer
Canada
18 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2011 : 02:40:00
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The Yamaha DTX-MULTI-12 is versatile as it includes a trigger input for HH CTRL. Adding HH, Kick, & Snare pads allows users the option to also use it as a mini drumkit (among many other things). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK3iXad7yG8&feature=related If Roland added a input for HH-CTRL it could be used in the same way. quote:
Originally posted by Unkle Kev
Damn it, it doesn't have a cocktail function either. Not able to make me a martini? Cancel my order! ;-)
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Unkle Kev
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1460 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2011 : 10:27:46
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| Alpine, I know its something missing from the SPD-Sx, but if you want that functionality you buy the SPD-30 or the Multi-12. The SPD-S had the hi-hat controller function but so few people bought it for that reason it makes sense for Roland to focus on improving the functions most people did use it for. The pad response on the SPD-S didn't make it much use as a portable e-kit anyway. The Multi-12 is more of an SPD-30 with a bit of sampling crammed in. The SPD-Sx is a sampler with a bit of SPD-30 crammed in. |
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Prog
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
21202 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2011 : 10:41:06
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| A footswitch can presumably still be used to switch between open and closed hi-hat sounds. |
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Alpine
New Contributer
Canada
18 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2011 : 01:00:35
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I notice more players are now using the Yamaha Multi-12. IMO it is the most versatile as it combines the best of both worlds. Integrating a stand alone percussion pad, a mini drumkit, 12 on board pads, 7 external trigger inputs, loops, sampling and much more all in one box! Users who require more sample time can simply use with a laptop. Adding a software editor & 2gb to the SPD-SX is raising the bar, it will be exciting to see what comes next from Yamaha!
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Originally posted by Unkle Kev
Alpine, I know its something missing from the SPD-Sx, but if you want that functionality you buy the SPD-30 or the Multi-12. The SPD-S had the hi-hat controller function but so few people bought it for that reason it makes sense for Roland to focus on improving the functions most people did use it for. The pad response on the SPD-S didn't make it much use as a portable e-kit anyway. The Multi-12 is more of an SPD-30 with a bit of sampling crammed in. The SPD-Sx is a sampler with a bit of SPD-30 crammed in.
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Chris_
New Contributer
34 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2011 : 05:25:38
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Hi All,
Good News, The New US MAP (Minimum Advertised Price) has been changed to $799.00 And not anymore 999$ |
Kind Regards
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CraigDrums
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1789 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2011 : 09:19:21
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like I said to you when you asked me on facebook Al, this was never designed as a mini drum kit, thats why we had the trigger inputs on the SPD-30 so that could be...
we have a specific market in mind, that's what ticks the box |
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Prog
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
21202 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2011 : 10:02:10
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| It certainly looks likely to tick all of my boxes. |
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Unkle Kev
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1460 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2011 : 10:48:35
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quote:
Originally posted by Alpine
I notice more players are now using the Yamaha Multi-12. IMO it is the most versatile as it combines the best of both worlds. Integrating a stand alone percussion pad, a mini drumkit, 12 on board pads, 7 external trigger inputs, loops, sampling and much more all in one box! Users who require more sample time can simply use with a laptop. Adding a software editor & 2gb to the SPD-SX is raising the bar, it will be exciting to see what comes next from Yamaha!
That laptop you need to make the Multi-12 have a truly useful sample time will add £500 onto the £450 you've already spent on the Multi-12 itself. Once you've added on the extra triggers/pads to make a mini kit out of the Multi-12 you'd possibly be as well buying an e-kit and a laptop for samples.
They're both great pieces of kit that do different jobs with a little bit of crossover on their functionality. The SPD-Sx gives me the big sample memory I want, pads to trigger, and enough trigger inputs to let me reinforce my live sound. I'm happy. |
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thebeaver
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/10/2011 : 11:27:17
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quote:
Originally posted by Alpine
I notice more players are now using the Yamaha Multi-12. IMO it is the most versatile as it combines the best of both worlds. Integrating a stand alone percussion pad, a mini drumkit, 12 on board pads, 7 external trigger inputs, loops, sampling and much more all in one box! Users who require more sample time can simply use with a laptop. Adding a software editor & 2gb to the SPD-SX is raising the bar, it will be exciting to see what comes next from Yamaha!
quote:
Originally posted by Unkle Kev
Alpine, I know its something missing from the SPD-Sx, but if you want that functionality you buy the SPD-30 or the Multi-12. The SPD-S had the hi-hat controller function but so few people bought it for that reason it makes sense for Roland to focus on improving the functions most people did use it for. The pad response on the SPD-S didn't make it much use as a portable e-kit anyway. The Multi-12 is more of an SPD-30 with a bit of sampling crammed in. The SPD-Sx is a sampler with a bit of SPD-30 crammed in.
You talk a little too much like a Yammy sales rep for me to take that advice seriously  |
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Unkle Kev
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1460 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2011 : 13:51:19
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You talk a little too much like a Yammy sales rep for me to take that advice seriously
Ahem....
http://ca.yamaha.com/en/artists/drums/al_webster/
Seriously, welcome to the forum Al! I was in Canada on holiday last month. Love it over there! |
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