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Badman_batman
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 20/02/2012 : 22:35:04
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Ok guys need some advise
At the mo i have a 20" sabian xs ride and i use a 17"xist crash and mehmet 13"hh
Looking at getting a BIG china and found one on ebay but its a Zil k custom and also looking at a splash but again a different manufacturer
Should i try and stick to one manufacturer or go with the sound, i kinda like the idea of the matching sets but don't really want to sacrifice sound
I keep reading and seeing people with full cymbal sets by istanbul, sabian etc but can someone really like the sound of every cymbal from one range or does mixing it up add your own feel
what would you guys think |
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benjisonfire
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/02/2012 : 22:54:27
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I think one reason people stick with a particular brand may be there is a certain tonal consistency.
For example, and some may not agree, but I think you can hear the difference between a sabian ride and a zildjian ride.
To me sabians sound more 'hyped' and modern, zildjian more traditional and 'old school'
So if you want your cymbals all to sound very unified, sticking to one brand and one line, A, A custom, AAx, HHX ETC, may help with that.
however, An audience doesn't listen with their eyes (hell, as long as your ride is ridey and your crash is crashy) they ain't gona give a flying **** what your playing. choose with your ears and your heart.
as long as they are appropriate to what your playing (no extra heavy mega bell metal/rock rides for jazz, and no trying to maintain a heavy beat on an anaemic thin K con), and inspire you to play, it really doesn't matter what's written on them. |
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Unkle Kev
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1423 Posts |
Posted - 20/02/2012 : 23:01:11
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Some would argue that a common manufacturer will make blending different styles and weights of cymbals much easier. Others would say that restricting yourself that way means you'll miss out on the opportunity to find the exact sounds you want.
The audience hears "tsssshhh!", "ping" and "chk" no matter what you do. Please yourself! |
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scoobydude
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
2485 Posts |
Posted - 21/02/2012 : 05:40:20
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| Always choose cymbals with your ears, what's written on them doesn't mean a thing. |
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bulbousheed
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
3272 Posts |
Posted - 21/02/2012 : 07:56:49
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| does'nt matter a jot ESPECIALLY when it comes to china's as they sound completely different to other cymbals on the kit. |
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Diril Cymbals
Duallist pedal
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Sharklaar
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
1839 Posts |
Posted - 21/02/2012 : 09:43:05
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My current set up...
Zildjian ZXT 20" Ride
Stagg DH 19" Crash/Ride
Stagg SH 18" Crash
Meinl Classics 18" China
Dream Contact 17" Crash
Sabian Pro Sonix 16" Crash
Sabian B8 Pro 14" Hats
As you can tell, I'm always on a budget and looking for bargains - I haven't quite reached the financial stage in my life where I can get a load of nice cymbals. So I've got cymbals from 5 different manufacturers. But in my opinion, they all sound OK together when used at the right time. E.g. the 16" crash is basically used as a splash which doesn't put it out of place to my ear.
Agree that consistency with the china is irrelevant because of the difference in sound.
The only cymbal I want to change at the moment I think is the Dream crash - it's a nice sounding cymbal but it's not loud or heavy enough for my style of music. |
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logic_user99
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
10126 Posts |
Posted - 21/02/2012 : 09:43:36
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| Let your ears do the pickin', son. If a brand sounds good all round, go with it. If you need to mix'n'match, go with it. |
Drums | Cymbals | Sticks
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DyeHouseDrumWorks
Excellent Contributer
United Kingdom
185 Posts |
Posted - 22/02/2012 : 19:17:05
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Sticking with a particular line of cymbals is a 'safe' way to get a cohesive cymbal set up, which is probably why the matched set option has been made available from some manufacturers - even in the realms of cast cymbals. This is well worth keeping in mind of you're buying by mail order too.
If you trust your ears and have made good, long term cymbal purchases in the past, then it's a safe bet to go with your instincts.
Otherwise, you could make some costly mistakes. |
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SoulResistance
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
2751 Posts |
Posted - 08/03/2012 : 12:24:34
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I'm all for mixing and matching.
Go for whatever you like the sound of, if they are all the same or completely different brands / models.
Unless you are endorsed then why limit yourself and your sound?
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rockdrummerzero
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
2021 Posts |
Posted - 08/03/2012 : 13:02:26
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| I agree about the sound being the most important aspect of choice, but it just happens that Istanbul Chinas are absolutely lovely, I have a 18 China Pang and it is all over everything I have done in the lasy few years, 'classic' trashy breathy thing. I also have a Achemy pro 17 which is fast as quick thing, very 'eastern' with almost no decay, brilliant for quick accents etc. |
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