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monkeythedrummer
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 Posted - 01/04/2012 : 00:01:19
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We often talk about lightweight drums, but I was wondering of the actually scale between light and heavy drums. I picked up an Pearl "all maple" floor tom today and I'm sure it weighed more that my bass drum...
Would any of you with scales be able to weigh your drums? Perhaps just a 16" floor tom for reference.
Simply stand on scales with/without and determine the weight from that. It won't be super accurate but should be accurate to a kilo or so.
So, what does everyone's kit weigh...? |
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Dave S
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Posted - 01/04/2012 : 02:24:39
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| Another factor are whether the hoops are triple flanged or die cast. I've got two kits of nearly the exact same spec by different manufacturers - one with normal hoops, one with triple flanged. The latter weighs an unbelievable amount more! |
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NormanHouse
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/04/2012 : 14:41:44
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I sold my Pearl VMX kit for this very reason - fantastic kit with ace maple sound but weighed a ton.
Gretsch new classics are not far behind - Maple again.
Gretsch Jazz Catalina bop kit is apparantly Mahogany and is a real featherweight.
I thought maple was supposed to be light?
Hardware and hoops have a lot to do with it mind. I switched to PR from Hardcase for the same reason. |
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WendyB
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Drumheduk
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benjisonfire
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logic_user99
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/04/2012 : 09:26:56
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| I'll give it a go when I'm next where my gear is! |
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martydrums
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 10:17:49
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I'm not getting on the bathroom scales for anyone  |
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phillyrhythm
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Captain Bubble
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 11:39:02
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| Extremes: my Gun Metal snare weighs 8 Kg. The 4 drum unit of my compact kits (snare and 3 toms) weighs just 4 kg. |
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dogface
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 12:02:56
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quote:
Originally posted by NormanHouse
I sold my Pearl VMX kit for this very reason - fantastic kit with ace maple sound but weighed a ton.
Gretsch new classics are not far behind - Maple again.
Gretsch Jazz Catalina bop kit is apparantly Mahogany and is a real featherweight.
I thought maple was supposed to be light?
Hardware and hoops have a lot to do with it mind. I switched to PR from Hardcase for the same reason.
No, maple is a very heavy wood. |
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benjisonfire
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 17:14:01
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Originally posted by dogface
quote:
Originally posted by NormanHouse
I sold my Pearl VMX kit for this very reason - fantastic kit with ace maple sound but weighed a ton.
Gretsch new classics are not far behind - Maple again.
Gretsch Jazz Catalina bop kit is apparantly Mahogany and is a real featherweight.
I thought maple was supposed to be light?
Hardware and hoops have a lot to do with it mind. I switched to PR from Hardcase for the same reason.
No, maple is a very heavy wood.
really? whats the lightest wood that would work for drums then? I assumed maple to because of maple vs hickory sticks!
my birch highwood it light. v.thin shells. sticll got friction burn on my knuckles after lugging it on the tube!
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dogface
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 17:30:59
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There are plenty of tables of wood densities on t'interweb - here's one that suggests maple is about the same as mahogany
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/wood-density-d_40.html
and here's one that suggests it's much heavier
http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_wood.htm
Of course, it all depends on the particular species, and even then there will be quite a range. If you want light drums, I'd suggest seeking out vintage shells - thin mahogany with beech re-rings. |
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Yard
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 18:16:04
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| If you have a 'proper' kit then you should be able to lift the bass drum one handed and hold it at arms length.. |
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monkeythedrummer
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 19:02:05
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I don't think the density of wood will make a huge difference to the weight unless the shells are very very thick as the metal work seems to make up a very large proportion of the weight,
My scales are out of action, so I'll have to let you know soon. It's just that we often talk about lightweight or really heavy drums but it'd be nice to have an actual reference point.
For instance I know people always say how light the Catalinas are, I was just wondering exactly how light.
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WendyB
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 19:45:43
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quote:
Originally posted by Yard
If you have a 'proper' kit then you should be able to lift the bass drum one handed and hold it at arms length..
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Grahame B
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 20:29:47
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Originally posted by Yard
If you have a 'proper' kit then you should be able to lift the bass drum one handed and hold it at arms length..
For how long ? |
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WendyB
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Yard
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Captain Bubble
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Posted - 04/04/2012 : 08:43:15
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Until you finally, FINALLY decide :
which heads to fit,
how to tune them,
what damping to add,
which pedal and which beater to play it with,
which famous drummers use a similar bass drum and heads, or which alternative make should be used,
which Impact Pad to stick on it and whether to stick central or off-central,
whether or not to fit it with isolation spurs and hardware,
....and all the other things to fret about instead getting on and PLAYING THE FECKER! |
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dstetoon
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/04/2012 : 19:56:00
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i have a 14 x 6.5 dw brass snare and i would defiantly consider it a very heavy drum, as would my drumming friends. Had a quick look on t'interweb and amazon describe it's shipping weight as 15lbs.
So without packaging material maybe weighs in around 6.5kg. Doesn't sound much but i have already retired it from gigging to stay at home drum after around 5 gigs. |
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Captain Bubble
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Posted - 08/04/2012 : 20:18:06
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Originally posted by dstetoon
i have a 14 x 6.5 dw brass snare and i would defiantly consider it a very heavy drum, as would my drumming friends. Had a quick look on t'interweb and amazon describe it's shipping weight as 15lbs.
So without packaging material maybe weighs in around 6.5kg. Doesn't sound much but i have already retired it from gigging to stay at home drum after around 5 gigs.
PAH! 1.5 Kg less than my heavy one! |
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Yard
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Uzbekistan
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Posted - 08/04/2012 : 20:40:46
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To save your backs buy a Gretsch Round Badge kit with lightweight Canopus hardware,DW 5000 pedal and a 70s Ludwig stool.
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monkeythedrummer
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/04/2012 : 22:04:52
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quote:
Originally posted by dstetoon
i have a 14 x 6.5 dw brass snare and i would defiantly consider it a very heavy drum, as would my drumming friends. Had a quick look on t'interweb and amazon describe it's shipping weight as 15lbs.
So without packaging material maybe weighs in around 6.5kg. Doesn't sound much but i have already retired it from gigging to stay at home drum after around 5 gigs.
Wow. That's less than my bass drum.... |
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dstetoon
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/04/2012 : 23:18:34
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quote:
Originally posted by Captain Bubble
quote:
Originally posted by dstetoon
i have a 14 x 6.5 dw brass snare and i would defiantly consider it a very heavy drum, as would my drumming friends. Had a quick look on t'interweb and amazon describe it's shipping weight as 15lbs.
So without packaging material maybe weighs in around 6.5kg. Doesn't sound much but i have already retired it from gigging to stay at home drum after around 5 gigs.
PAH! 1.5 Kg less than my heavy one!
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Originally posted by monkeythedrummer
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Originally posted by dstetoon
i have a 14 x 6.5 dw brass snare and i would defiantly consider it a very heavy drum, as would my drumming friends. Had a quick look on t'interweb and amazon describe it's shipping weight as 15lbs.
So without packaging material maybe weighs in around 6.5kg. Doesn't sound much but i have already retired it from gigging to stay at home drum after around 5 gigs.
Wow. That's less than my bass drum....
i will defiantly get this weighed when i get home as i thought that figure sounded abit low myself. it is heavy i swear!!! or maybe i should just get that gym renewal from the bin :) |
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