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Bhavdrums
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 Posted - 01/04/2012 : 18:46:51
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Hi All,
I just wanted to know if anyone is going? There might have been a thread about this already so apologies if I missed it, I just ordered a ticket and I am looking forward to it.
I feel it is a shame that Pete Cater is not playing on the bill, as he does fly the flag for buddy rich tributes with his band.
Is there some bad press around this event have I missed something? Suprised to not have seen a post about this? |
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Mr NoChops
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Posted - 01/04/2012 : 19:02:31
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Originally posted by Bhavdrums
Hi All,
I just wanted to know if anyone is going? There might have been a thread about this already so apologies if I missed it, I just ordered a ticket and I am looking forward to it.
I feel it is a shame that Pete Cater is not playing on the bill, as he does fly the flag for buddy rich tributes with his band.
Is there some bad press around this event have I missed something? Suprised to not have seen a post about this?
Long story! 
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New Boy
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Posted - 01/04/2012 : 22:18:45
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Mr NoChops
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Posted - 01/04/2012 : 22:25:39
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Your short answer says it all Mr Cater.
Full details in due course.
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Bhavdrums
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Posted - 02/04/2012 : 11:16:18
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Fair enough Pete, will be interesting to hear the story
Surely someone here is going, Mr Dolbear you must be going? |
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Yard
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 09:55:05
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Ginger Baker was doing the show too but I chose to avoid it as I do not live in London..
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Bhavdrums
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 13:18:35
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Hi Yard,
I think you would of been dissapointed with Ginger Baker he was poor I was looking foward to him but he looked like he was drunk to be honest.
Ian Paice was excellent though really enjoyed his playing, Gavin Harrison was great also.
I had never seen Elliott Henshaw play before and he is a top drummer a lovely swing feel really digged his playing.
John Blackwekk Jr was good but in terms of swing/jazz playing I found that he wasn't so good at this.
For me personally Dave Weckl was the best played so musically and played a beautiful drum solo.
I must say that the attendence to this show was poor, there was hardly any people there which was sad to see. I also think this event missed that old school Jazz drummer which is why it was such a shame Mr No Chops was not on the bill it would have made the whole event just that bit special for me
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 14:12:44
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Fair enough Pete, will be interesting to hear the story
Surely someone here is going, Mr Dolbear you must be going?
Sorry i also decided not to go went on holiday instead |
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Yard
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 14:17:02
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My mate Andy was Ginger's tech for this show.He jumped off our tour bus to go straight there but I wanted to get home.
It would have been good to be there especially as Clem Cattini was honoured.He is a lovely man and deserves recognition for all the hits he played on and his contribution to the 60s pop world along with Bobby Graham and Carlo Little.
Pete Cater should have done the show but Pete will fill you in on that.
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Mr NoChops
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 14:22:46
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I can think of very few contributors to these shows down the years who could be classed as 'old school jazz'. I think Joe Morello may have appeared on the very first one and of course Louie Bellson appeared at the Wiltern in '91. There exists a resistance to any drummer playing this repertoire with the integrity of the original performances which I shall explain at some point in the future, but not just now.
Sorry to hear it was a poor turnout. That's never good news for any drum event. Mind you I saw little in the way of publicity and it did seem a bit pricey, but then again it must have cost a huge sum of money to stage such an ambitious event. I do hope the organisers haven't taken a hiding financially.
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Mr NoChops
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 14:24:15
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Originally posted by Yard
Pete Cater should have done the show but Pete will fill you in on that.
Ginger does not drink by the way..that is how he is!!
Indeed.
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Mr NoChops
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 14:25:25
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Originally posted by Bhavdrums
Fair enough Pete, will be interesting to hear the story
Surely someone here is going, Mr Dolbear you must be going?
Sorry i also decided not to go went on holiday instead
Is the weather nice where you are Mike?
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jamoca
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 14:26:19
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You're right about the publicity, Pete - I only ever saw it mentioned once, looked and saw that you weren't on the bill, and didn't bother.
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 14:29:25
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Ginger does not drink by the way..that is how he is!!
Should that read 'anymore'? 
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Yard
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 15:00:03
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[quote]Originally posted by Yard
Ginger does not drink by the way..that is how he is!!
Should that read 'anymore'?
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Bhavdrums
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 16:34:43
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Yard you do make me laugh,
Clem Cattini had a lovely touch and feel on the drums, when Cath Rich handed him a lifetime achievement award he was so overwhelmed he started crying a little he seems like a gentlemen to me, came across as a really nice guy.
I have to say it was dissapointing to see a lot of empty seats, I must say it wasn't such a good idea to put the event on a Monday night, I also have to say that overall I found ticket prices expensive which in the current economy not everyone could afford to go.
Its a real shame as it looks like we will never see this event in the UK again judging by yesterday |
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Mr NoChops
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 17:05:14
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The last time a concert took place in London featuring the BR repertoire it also took place on a Monday. It can work because a lot of musos are not working and they will come out and support their colleagues. The gig I'm referring to took place at Cadogan Hall just off Sloane Square and 791 out of a possible 856 seats were sold. The band was fabulous and the drummer was quite good too although I'd never heard of him. David Sinclair writing in the Times the following day described it as an "impeccable tribute to the music of the late Buddy Rich". They played West Side Story as well, which was nice. I just wish I could remember the name of the fecking drummer.
True about the economy though. I'm sure it's tough selling tickets with things as they are.
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jamoca
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 17:15:15
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The last time a concert took place featuring the BR repertoire it also took place on a Monday. It can work because a lot of musos are not working and they will come out and support their colleagues. The gig I'm referring to took place at Cadogan Hall just off Sloane Square and 791 out of a possible 856 seats were sold. The band was fabulous and the drummer was quite good too although I'd never heard of him. David Sinclair writing in the Times the following day described it as an "impeccable tribute to the music of the late Buddy Rich". They played West Side Story as well, which was nice. I just wish I could remember the name of the fecking drummer.
True about the economy though. I'm sure it's tough selling tickets with things as they are.
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Mr NoChops
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 17:32:21
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The last time a concert took place featuring the BR repertoire it also took place on a Monday. It can work because a lot of musos are not working and they will come out and support their colleagues. The gig I'm referring to took place at Cadogan Hall just off Sloane Square and 791 out of a possible 856 seats were sold. The band was fabulous and the drummer was quite good too although I'd never heard of him. David Sinclair writing in the Times the following day described it as an "impeccable tribute to the music of the late Buddy Rich". They played West Side Story as well, which was nice. I just wish I could remember the name of the fecking drummer.
True about the economy though. I'm sure it's tough selling tickets with things as they are.
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Yard
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I have been blessed to work with many gifted drummers over the years and to work with Clem would have been an absolute honour but alas,not as yet.
As with all the real greats,Clem is well mannered,modest,humble and down to earth,all qualities that I admire greatly and feel comfortable with.
Along with Charlie Watts,Steve Gadd,Jim Keltner,Whitey, etc he is the template that you should all follow in grace and good manners.
How good you are comes nowhere close to the basics of life.
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Mr NoChops
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 18:18:28
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I have been blessed to work with many gifted drummers over the years and to work with Clem would have been an absolute honour but alas,not as yet.
As with all the real greats,Clem is well mannered,modest,humble and down to earth,all qualities that I admire greatly and feel comfortable with.
Along with Charlie Watts,Steve Gadd,Jim Keltner,Whitey, etc he is the template that you should all follow in grace and good manners.
How good you are comes nowhere close to the basics of life.
Manners maketh man.
How true. Maketh woman too.
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Yard
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 19:03:25
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Originally posted by Yard
I have been blessed to work with many gifted drummers over the years and to work with Clem would have been an absolute honour but alas,not as yet.
As with all the real greats,Clem is well mannered,modest,humble and down to earth,all qualities that I admire greatly and feel comfortable with.
Along with Charlie Watts,Steve Gadd,Jim Keltner,Whitey, etc he is the template that you should all follow in grace and good manners.
How good you are comes nowhere close to the basics of life.
Manners maketh man.
How true. Maketh woman too.
Which is where pint swigging geezer birds fall foul!!
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Mr NoChops
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 19:10:57
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Originally posted by Mr NoChops
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Originally posted by Yard
I have been blessed to work with many gifted drummers over the years and to work with Clem would have been an absolute honour but alas,not as yet.
As with all the real greats,Clem is well mannered,modest,humble and down to earth,all qualities that I admire greatly and feel comfortable with.
Along with Charlie Watts,Steve Gadd,Jim Keltner,Whitey, etc he is the template that you should all follow in grace and good manners.
How good you are comes nowhere close to the basics of life.
Manners maketh man.
How true. Maketh woman too.
Which is where pint swigging geezer birds fall foul!!
How true these words are, even today.
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 19:28:04
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Originally posted by Yard
I have been blessed to work with many gifted drummers over the years and to work with Clem would have been an absolute honour but alas,not as yet.
As with all the real greats,Clem is well mannered,modest,humble and down to earth,all qualities that I admire greatly and feel comfortable with.
Along with Charlie Watts,Steve Gadd,Jim Keltner,Whitey, etc he is the template that you should all follow in grace and good manners.
How good you are comes nowhere close to the basics of life.
Manners maketh man.
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I got my RHYTHM yesterday ,it's a tribute issue-big feature which seems to be talking a lot about the concert which has already taken place?? Very bizarre.
Even more bizarre is the advert for next months issue which is going to feature Ginger Baker on his "aversion to Buddy Rich". WTF? Didnt he just get honoured at the Buddy Rich concert? |
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I got my RHYTHM yesterday ,it's a tribute issue-big feature which seems to be talking a lot about the concert which has already taken place?? Very bizarre.
Even more bizarre is the advert for next months issue which is going to feature Ginger Baker on his "aversion to Buddy Rich". WTF? Didnt he just get honoured at the Buddy Rich concert?
When Ginger Baker challenged Elvin Jones to a drum battle in (I think) 1971 Buddy Rich said in Melody Maker that it was "like a paraplegic challenging Arnold Palmer to a round of golf" and that he considered Ginger to be a "non player".
It has subsequently been put about that they became great friends years later but I believe that this assertion can be safely filed with a lot of the other revisionist claptrap that is often put about re BR.
I await the Baker article with interest.
In other news today I hear that four of the Beatles' sons are planning to form a band. (True, not a belated April fool). This begs the questions;
a) will it be any good?
b) will they play the original repertoire?
c) does the family connection automatically guarantee quality?
d) would you be better off listening to the Bootleg Beatles?
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Posted - 04/04/2012 : 10:23:13
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[quote].
In other news today I hear that four of the Beatles' sons are planning to form a band. (True, not a belated April fool). This begs the questions;
a) will it be any good?
b) will they play the original repertoire?
c) does the family connection automatically guarantee quality?
d) would you be better off listening to the Bootleg Beatles?
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Posted - 04/04/2012 : 10:26:27
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[quote].
In other news today I hear that four of the Beatles' sons are planning to form a band. (True, not a belated April fool). This begs the questions;
a) will it be any good?
b) will they play the original repertoire?
c) does the family connection automatically guarantee quality?
d) would you be better off listening to the Bootleg Beatles?
If Julian Lennon was involved I might be interested, more likely to be Sean so I'm not
'Fraid so.
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Posted - 04/04/2012 : 10:35:28
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I have been blessed to work with many gifted drummers over the years and to work with Clem would have been an absolute honour but alas,not as yet.
As with all the real greats,Clem is well mannered,modest,humble and down to earth,all qualities that I admire greatly and feel comfortable with.
Along with Charlie Watts,Steve Gadd,Jim Keltner,Whitey, etc he is the template that you should all follow in grace and good manners.
How good you are comes nowhere close to the basics of life.
Manners maketh man.
I'd rather see a Clem Cattini Tribute Concert
Now THAT'S a great idea! Wouldn't it be wonderful to swing the spotlight over to some the greatest UK drummers for a change. And if you're talking about Clem's period in the 60s and 70s, you chuck in some of the greatest pop tunes written anywhere. While it was thrill to meet Buddy, it would a bigger thrill to meet Clem. He represents all that was exciting and worth working towards when I was a lad dreaming of a career in music. Bless ya sir!
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Posted - 04/04/2012 : 10:41:09
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Originally posted by bulbousheed
I got my RHYTHM yesterday ,it's a tribute issue-big feature which seems to be talking a lot about the concert which has already taken place?? Very bizarre.
Even more bizarre is the advert for next months issue which is going to feature Ginger Baker on his "aversion to Buddy Rich". WTF? Didnt he just get honoured at the Buddy Rich concert?
When Ginger Baker challenged Elvin Jones to a drum battle in (I think) 1971 Buddy Rich said in Melody Maker that it was "like a paraplegic challenging Arnold Palmer to a round of golf" and that he considered Ginger to be a "non player".
Ginger and Elvin were good friends..Buddy and Ginger were not maybe because of their similar temperament?
It has subsequently been put about that they became great friends years later but I believe that this assertion can be safely filed with a lot of the other revisionist claptrap that is often put about re BR.
I await the Baker article with interest.Me too...Ginger tells all!!
In other news today I hear that four of the Beatles' sons are planning to form a band. (True, not a belated April fool). This begs the questions;
a) will it be any good?
b) will they play the original repertoire?
c) does the family connection automatically guarantee quality?
d) would you be better off listening to the Bootleg Beatles?
You would be surprised at just how ordinary The Beatles kids are?
Well raised and down to earth.Dhani Harrison has the same qualities that George had.James is like Paul.Zak and Jay are everyday people.
I have worked with Zak over a 25 year period and seen him play everything from pub covers in Camden to The Who song list and nail it every time.
Never met Sean or Julian.
They are all musicians in their own right but the legacy of being Beatles kids may cause others to want them to fail..who your father is cannot be controlled but they are very proud of their heritage.
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The lack of attendance could well have been due to poor publicity. (I only heard about it from the Mike Dolbear site.) Was it publicised as a 'public' event or was it basically organised as a drummer's event? Given the high level of interest in jazz (particularly in the London area) I would have thought that a Buddy Rich event should have been able to fill a theatre the size of the Palladium, but only with the right publicity. On the other hand, with all the 'rock' drummers involved, maybe this gave the wrong impression to the general public.
I also feel that London is not necessarily the best location - somewhere more central (Symphony Hall Birmingham for example) may have allowed more drummers to attend from the whole of the UK. |
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The lack of attendance could well have been due to poor publicity. (I only heard about it from the Mike Dolbear site.) Was it publicised as a 'public' event or was it basically organised as a drummer's event? Given the high level of interest in jazz (particularly in the London area) I would have thought that a Buddy Rich event should have been able to fill a theatre the size of the Palladium, but only with the right publicity. On the other hand, with all the 'rock' drummers involved, maybe this gave the wrong impression to the general public.
I also feel that London is not necessarily the best location - somewhere more central (Symphony Hall Birmingham for example) may have allowed more drummers to attend from the whole of the UK.
Hence the choice or Warwick Arts Centre for World's Greatest Drummer.
Admittedly there is a reasonable (I hesitate to say high) level of interest in jazz in London. The BR big band repertoire hasn't historically found favour with hardcore jazz fans/promoters. Even when it was new it was considered to be a bit too crossover, middle of the road and commercially biased for the serious jazz 'purists'. I have to say I disagree with this as I believe there is a good deal of excellent writing in that body of work. Also from what little I saw this wasn't been marketed to jazz fans. Certainly it was not advertised in any publications where I place ads. Added to which with the debatable inclusion of Weckl there was no drummer on the bill with any particular jazz credentials. In addition the inclusion of Tony Christie is just totally baffling.
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Who was the drummer at the cadogan hall gig?
Haven't got a bleedin' clue.
Drew a very good crowd though.
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Posted - 04/04/2012 : 13:36:43
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Yes, fully agree with that Mr NoChops. I actually quite like Tony Christie (I Did What I Did For Maria always brings a lump to my throat!) but like you say, a baffling choice for that sort of event.
Indeed. Good singer.
However sometimes you can be left with a feeling of "bums on seats at all costs". I'm quite good mates with Tony Hadley and I had an event coming up a couple of years ago and it was suggested that were I to invite him to guest it would be a big draw. I refused because I felt that such a move would alienate my core audience. Similarly a promoter I know was staging a 30s/40s swing concert and at one point was trying to secure the services of an X Factor runner up (I'm not sure he cared which one either!) It is my belief that potential audience members can smell a lack of integrity a mile off.
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I would have thought that the inclusion of Bruce Dickinson singing 'Smoke On The Water' would have been enough to have knocked the final nail in the coffin.
Further proving the point. When it becomes unclear what the artistic objective is then it just seems to be about revenue streams.
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Posted - 04/04/2012 : 13:51:40
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I must Tony Christie was excellent and for his age he is in excellent condition, I couldn't say the same for Ginger Baker though!
Must also say that Bruce Dickinson singing smoke on the water was excellent I am a big rock fan as well as a big jazz fan, I throughly enjoyed it. I was suprised he could sing so well he really belts them out.
Is this all suitable for a Buddy Rich Memorial event thats a whole other story!
One thing I would say is what would have Buddy thought of it?
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Great idea, I have felt for a very long time that British drummers are obsessed with American drummers and pay little interest to all the great drummers here whose work in all styles of music is equally worthy of respect.
I disagree. Whilst certainly this was the case in years gone by I think the 'globalisation' of drumming has been of great advantage to the Europe/UK players. We hold our own with anything the USA has to offer (apart from Vinnie, but then the rest of America can't keep pace with him either).
On a slightly different point Ian Palmer has produced four successful World's Greatest Drummer events celebrating the heritage of past greats. With the exception of Steve Smith all the participants have been UK players and have included Steve White, Neal Wilkinson, Gary Husband, Darrin Mooney, Karl Brazil, Jeremy Stacey, Pete Ray Biggin and a few more, so whilst a big international name can be useful on a show of this kind it is by no means a necessity.
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I must Tony Christie was excellent and for his age he is in excellent condition, I couldn't say the same for Ginger Baker though!
Must also say that Bruce Dickinson singing smoke on the water was excellent I am a big rock fan as well as a big jazz fan, I throughly enjoyed it. I was suprised he could sing so well he really belts them out.
Is this all suitable for a Buddy Rich Memorial event thats a whole other story!
One thing I would say is what would have Buddy thought of it?
Yeah! Imagine how the interview might go!
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Who was the drummer at the cadogan hall gig?
Haven't got a bleedin' clue.
Drew a very good crowd though.
Was his tight turtleneck sweater. |
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Who was the drummer at the cadogan hall gig?
Haven't got a bleedin' clue.
Drew a very good crowd though.
Was his tight turtleneck sweater.
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This thread has prompted me to register with this forum and get my first post up. I recently took up drums at the spritely age of 45, my father was a drummer and I was brought up with Buddy Rich and saw him, from memory, at the kelvin Hall in Glasgow when I was a boy and was in awe then.
When I saw that there was a Buddy Rich tribute concert in Lichfield, I headed over there with three generations and we all loved the concert and it was there that I discovered Pete Cater (haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere here). he was brilliant and he announced that he was doing his own tribute concert in London on the Monday at Cadogan Hall in London. I was there, with just two generations this time, my 16 year old son at the time, who is also a drummer and he was blown away by said Mr cater and his Big Band.
I next saw Pete et al at the Derngate in Northampton and when I saw the Buddy Rich Memorial Concert come up felt sure I would see the UK's foremost exponent of Big Band on the guest list, but sadly, no.
The evening at the palladium was truly a mixed bag, Dave Weckl was fabulous (although I preferred Tommy Igoe's "Willowcrest" in the 2008 BR Memorial(you can YouTube it) but the only other truly outstanding technical drummer for this style of music was Gavin Harrison, his set was terrific; these were the two stand-out sets but truly, the whole event was poorer for the omission of the UKs Foremost Big band Drummer... |
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 12:06:57
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Originally posted by rawe06
This thread has prompted me to register with this forum and get my first post up. I recently took up drums at the spritely age of 45, my father was a drummer and I was brought up with Buddy Rich and saw him, from memory, at the kelvin Hall in Glasgow when I was a boy and was in awe then.
When I saw that there was a Buddy Rich tribute concert in Lichfield, I headed over there with three generations and we all loved the concert and it was there that I discovered Pete Cater (haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere here). he was brilliant and he announced that he was doing his own tribute concert in London on the Monday at Cadogan Hall in London. I was there, with just two generations this time, my 16 year old son at the time, who is also a drummer and he was blown away by said Mr cater and his Big Band.
I next saw Pete et al at the Derngate in Northampton and when I saw the Buddy Rich Memorial Concert come up felt sure I would see the UK's foremost exponent of Big Band on the guest list, but sadly, no.
The evening at the palladium was truly a mixed bag, Dave Weckl was fabulous (although I preferred Tommy Igoe's "Willowcrest" in the 2008 BR Memorial(you can YouTube it) but the only other truly outstanding technical drummer for this style of music was Gavin Harrison, his set was terrific; these were the two stand-out sets but truly, the whole event was poorer for the omission of the UKs Foremost Big band Drummer...
There are a number of reasons for this. Suffice to say it was very far from an accidental oversight.
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 12:28:17
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Originally posted by rawe06
This thread has prompted me to register with this forum and get my first post up. I recently took up drums at the spritely age of 45, my father was a drummer and I was brought up with Buddy Rich and saw him, from memory, at the kelvin Hall in Glasgow when I was a boy and was in awe then.
When I saw that there was a Buddy Rich tribute concert in Lichfield, I headed over there with three generations and we all loved the concert and it was there that I discovered Pete Cater (haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere here). he was brilliant and he announced that he was doing his own tribute concert in London on the Monday at Cadogan Hall in London. I was there, with just two generations this time, my 16 year old son at the time, who is also a drummer and he was blown away by said Mr cater and his Big Band.
I next saw Pete et al at the Derngate in Northampton and when I saw the Buddy Rich Memorial Concert come up felt sure I would see the UK's foremost exponent of Big Band on the guest list, but sadly, no.
The evening at the palladium was truly a mixed bag, Dave Weckl was fabulous (although I preferred Tommy Igoe's "Willowcrest" in the 2008 BR Memorial(you can YouTube it) but the only other truly outstanding technical drummer for this style of music was Gavin Harrison, his set was terrific; these were the two stand-out sets but truly, the whole event was poorer for the omission of the UKs Foremost Big band Drummer...
Indeed he HAS been mentioned in this thread...he is a popular and respected member of this forum! He is (ironically) Mr No Chops. Welcome to this great forum!
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 12:29:40
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Originally posted by rawe06
When I saw that there was a Buddy Rich tribute concert in Lichfield, I headed over there with three generations and we all loved the concert and it was there that I discovered Pete Cater
Was that 2007?
If so check
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ufyx1fHdAk&feature=relmfu
Reading between the lines I think somebody may have had a little 'volte face' when contrasted with the opinions publicly expressed five years ago.
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 20:47:34
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| Thanks Captain Bubble, I did know that, I was being semi-subtle, it passed you by :-) I have met and spoken with Pete on a couple of occasions and that and his talent were what prompted me to voice my disappointment at the BR 2012 oversight. |
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