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benjisonfire
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christianmurphy
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 05/04/2012 : 17:19:57
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Cheap, sturdy, reliable, good isolation, below average sound quality:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_tbone_hd990d.htm
Beyerdynamic DT 100 - Solid workhorse, good sound quality.
Beyerdynamic DT 770 M - Really good sound quality and isolation. My first choice for on ear monitoring. In line volume control can be handy too.
I prefer my in ears though :) |
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Brigham
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United Kingdom
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christianmurphy
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 17:29:32
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Originally posted by Brigham
Depends on what your budget is. These are EXTREMELY good:
http://www.grado.co.uk/grado-earphones/PS1000-professional-headphones.htm
Don't think I'd pay nearly 2 grand for a pair though.
Ah, are you looking for drumming headphones or standard? If drumming:
Look like open/semi open cans to me though? They might sound great but would let in way to much noise to be realistically usable. And surely that would mean having to drive them pretty hard to get enough volume to balance it out. I'd also say you'd need to drop the same amount again on an amp to match the quality to really notice it in comparison to say, AKG K702s?
If just for listening, and you don't mind dropping some cash, definitely consider a decent headphone amp and converter. Or an all in one like the Burson HA-160D. USB connection, good quality conversion and amplifier! |
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Prog
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 18:14:48
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I use AKG K240 Studio headphones and ACS Custom T2 Live! IEMs, but not at the same time.
They both sound great to my slightly knackered ears. |
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MustangMick
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Ireland
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benjisonfire
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United Kingdom
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gid
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 10:28:59
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Originally posted by benjisonfire
no no I mean for general listening enjoyment... budget upto £150 I like the look of the DT770's!
I have a pair of these, I use them in the studio when tracking drums, they offer great isolation, and good sound quality. |
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monkeythedrummer
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 10:49:44
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I use some sennheiser EH2200s.
They were free from work. Not sure if sound quality is amazing, but the comfort is amazing and they have great sound isolation. My litmus test is a noisy tube, and I can still enjoy music without pumping the volume up too far.
Flat response, but my mp3 player has a graphic equalizer so it's not a biggie.
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johncc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 12:34:18
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| DT150 - have been for years. Just perfect for me. |
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neokoenig
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 12:53:59
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| I've got the Beyer DT 770's for tracking - the closed back + good isolation is v handy for recording, and the sound is top notch. Careful about the 80 vs 220 OHM versions - I've got the higher ones and they're harder to drive. |
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benjisonfire
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 13:07:28
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| I'm seeing a lot of positive reviews of the DT250's I just with they were better looking... I know audiophiles are geeks, but if I spend that much money on something I want it to look good. I like the aesthetics of the sennheiser 598's... but they are open back... so no sound isolation... rubbish! maybe I but the DT250's and get out the paints?! |
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monkeythedrummer
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 14:26:51
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Whoaaaaa hold on Benji! You can't start a whole thread (as you did a few months ago) about how people that use cheap in-ear headphones suck and then not buy some headphones based on visual aesthetics! 
Get the ones that sound the best, you know you should!
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100% NOT SELLING Yamaha DTXplorer Module, 5x ddrum triggers, mesh heads and Yamaha E-cymbals. |
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Unkle Kev
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 16:58:05
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Originally posted by benjisonfire
I'm seeing a lot of positive reviews of the DT250's I just with they were better looking... I know audiophiles are geeks, but if I spend that much money on something I want it to look good. I like the aesthetics of the sennheiser 598's... but they are open back... so no sound isolation... rubbish! maybe I but the DT250's and get out the paints?!
DT250s kick ass and last forever. Mine are over 10 years old. Really easy to get spare parts too. I got a new bracket for three quid when a numb nuts plank spanker stood on mine.
And they sound amazing. I use them with my SPD-SX live. |
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logic_user99
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 18:41:53
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For day-to-day listening I use a pair of these: http://www.sony.co.uk/product/hps-extra-bass-and-dj/mdrxb300b.ae. A decent wide-range sound, good bass response, and good for listening to everything from jazz to Meshuggah.
I've got a pair of Beyer DT100s for studio and live use. Nothing better IMO. |
Drums | Cymbals | Sticks
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christianmurphy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 18:45:21
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Originally posted by benjisonfire
I'm seeing a lot of positive reviews of the DT250's I just with they were better looking... I know audiophiles are geeks, but if I spend that much money on something I want it to look good. I like the aesthetics of the sennheiser 598's... but they are open back... so no sound isolation... rubbish! maybe I but the DT250's and get out the paints?!
Open backs provide a more comfortable wear and are less fatiguing IMO. Only an issue if you plan on listening in a noisy environment.
Aesthetic wise, depends what you're into, but for a bit of a stretch, maybe 40 quid, you could pick up a pair of AKG K701s. Exactly the same as K702s bar the colour and removable cable. INCREDIBLE sound, and pretty bad ass looks too. I think so anyway . Although I think the K702s are better if anyone else is going to see you wearing them, bit more subtle ;) |
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djohnson1974
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 19:41:59
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Originally posted by christianmurphy
Cheap, sturdy, reliable, good isolation, below average sound quality:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_tbone_hd990d.htm
Beyerdynamic DT 100 - Solid workhorse, good sound quality.
Beyerdynamic DT 770 M - Really good sound quality and isolation. My first choice for on ear monitoring. In line volume control can be handy too.
I prefer my in ears though :)
+1 Always used these for recording, mix monitoring and general listening never put a foot wrong. |
"Can you count to 4? Then you're in the band!" |
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theslingerland
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Captain Bubble
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 19:58:33
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Originally posted by theslingerland
General listening (sorry - not sure why I missed the bit)
Beyer Dynamic DT 880's hands down.
Frequency response 5 Hz to 35kHz, only a few octaves either end of the frequency range audible to humans! (Plus a few extra octaves beyond most musicians' hearing too!) |
Marcus de Mowbray
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theslingerland
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 20:33:59
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Originally posted by Captain Bubble
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Originally posted by theslingerland
General listening (sorry - not sure why I missed the bit)
Beyer Dynamic DT 880's hands down.
Frequency response 5 Hz to 35kHz, only a few octaves either end of the frequency range audible to humans! (Plus a few extra octaves beyond most musicians' hearing too!)
Yo Marcus - you know more about this then I do - not sure what difference that frequency range makes? You'll have to explain it to me :-)
When I want to listen to music for pleasure on a tour bus or at home
Etc - I love these cans, no fatigue, clear top end. Just sounds right to
My ears! |
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christianmurphy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 21:35:22
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Originally posted by Captain Bubble
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Originally posted by theslingerland
General listening (sorry - not sure why I missed the bit)
Beyer Dynamic DT 880's hands down.
Frequency response 5 Hz to 35kHz, only a few octaves either end of the frequency range audible to humans! (Plus a few extra octaves beyond most musicians' hearing too!)
It's beyond anyones hearing! Humans generally 20hz to 20kHz. Dropping off the top end as age increases. Kind of pointless on cans. The very low end, below sort of 30hz, is 'felt' more than heard. 20hz business needs to be put out of big cones with very high power to really notice. |
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Captain Bubble
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 22:20:19
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Like Optical Illusions, there are also Hearing Illusions, a great example is that when people hear timpani with a big orchestra they sound big and booming with bright high harmonics, but in fact they do NOT produce the Fundamental Tone of the harmonic series which defines their note, but start at the Principal Tone an octave above it. Some composers have even been tricked and written parts an octave too low! (Source: Professor James Blades OBE, Percussion Instruments and Their History). Although they do not produce the fundamental, your brain instantly "fills in" the missing note, sometimes by hearing the pitch in double basses and low brass and "super-imposing" it onto the sound of the timpani, making them sound deeper and richer than they really are.
This means that if the lowest note you can hear in a piece of music is as low as your ears can hear, but it is only the Principal Note of the instrument, if your speakers or headphones CAN reproduce the Fundamental Note it will make the Harmonic series sound complete to you.
It's tricky to explain and I don't fully understand the science, so I hope I got it roughly right.
Oh yes, another example of why an "over-wide" frequency response is good: why is Darth Vader so much more intimidating at a Cinema with big sound system than at home on a TV? Sub-Sonic rumbling when he breathes! |
Marcus de Mowbray
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Captain Bubble
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 22:29:04
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I saw Jethro Tull at Hammy Odeon years ago, Doane Perry on drums, with Bass Drums that thumped me in the chest and belly. I spoke to the sound man after the gig and he told me that the drums had internal mics and the PA included sub-woofers to provide a fantastic thump below the range of hearing. I guess those Beyers will give a great bass drum sound! There are frequencies ina bass drum which we cannot hear, but if headphones or speakers do produce them it adds to the effect.
Also, as sound systems sound best when being played well below maximum volume to give good "headroom" the same is also true of frequency response: any device which goes beyond the human hearing range will reproduce audible sounds better and more efficiently.
On high frequency instruments, like the highest frequencies of a snare drum they may not be audible to humans, but if they are reproduced by the device the sound will be more natural, hence Aphex Exiters and Psycho-Acoustic Enhancers. |
Marcus de Mowbray
www.330studios.co.uk/marcus |
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