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Yard
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Posted - 21/04/2012 :  12:03:20  Show Profile  Visit Yard's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Should the race go ahead or not?

Will Bernie go skint,will his daughters finally go to work?


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gaz farrimond
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Posted - 21/04/2012 :  12:08:10  Show Profile  Visit gaz farrimond's Homepage  Reply with Quote

One thing the race has done, whether it goes ahead or not, is give the demonstrators a greater forum worldwide than they would otherwise have had. (Who remembers the Saudi troops going into Bahrain last year to help the regime quash similar demonstrations?) Because, like many of the Middle East countries, the flow of information in and out of the country is subject to much more control than here in the UK.

Personally, I think the race should be called off: Not because of the actual demonstrations or the political situation in Bahrain; but because I'd hate to see demonatrators manage to get onto the circuit whilst the race is going on and causing any fatalities.



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Yard
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Posted - 21/04/2012 :  12:27:08  Show Profile  Visit Yard's Homepage  Reply with Quote
+1

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beezerk
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Posted - 21/04/2012 :  12:50:16  Show Profile  Visit beezerk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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NCEL
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Posted - 22/04/2012 :  01:32:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like full steam ahead. I wish sports could be entirely separate from politics, but when it's something as high profile as F1 it's not possible. I don't think it should be going ahead for the reasons mentioned already, but either way, the spotlight is fixed on them now, so we'll have to wait and hope it all goes smoothly.

...well, I won't be seeing if it goes smoothly, because it's on Sky, but you get the gist...

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NormanHouse
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Posted - 22/04/2012 :  07:29:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Course it should be called off.

Where are the Drivers opinions in this?

Jackie Stewert would have had a few things to say.

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rollingthunder
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Posted - 22/04/2012 :  10:19:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NormanHouse

Course it should be called off.

Where are the Drivers opinions in this?

Jackie Stewert would have had a few things to say.




Ecclestone said there was nothing he could do if teams didnt want to race, but 'reminded them of their contractual obligations'
In other words dont show up and you will be thrown out of F1 and I will sue the arse of you. Hes too busy licking the Prince's d:ck and counting the money. What does he care that people are dying.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/apr/21/bernie-ecclestone-bahrain-f1-protest

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martydrums
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Posted - 22/04/2012 :  11:23:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was not Bernie's biggest fan previously but the decision to go ahead seems very wrong minded to me. Could any individual team have pulled out? I doubt it. Might have been interesting if the teams had decided collectively to withdraw, not that this was at all likely. Regardless of any other issues it seems like Bernie has missed an opportunity to look after the longer term future of F1, instead he is dragging the F1 reputation down...


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jackanakanory
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Posted - 22/04/2012 :  15:07:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another great race! Loving the season so far

on second thoughts, ignore what I just said
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OriginalAnimal
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Posted - 22/04/2012 :  22:48:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NormanHouse

Course it should be called off.

Where are the Drivers opinions in this?

Jackie Stewert would have had a few things to say.




Duh!!!! Jackie Stewart (at least get the name right) was overjoyed at his teams performance.

Another good race, loads of interest throughout.

Under Bernie, the teams/drivers have no opinions, when are you muppets going to understand that F1 is a BUSINESS not a sport


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NCEL
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Posted - 23/04/2012 :  01:01:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Force India looked like they might have the stones to make a stand, and I think that if they and maybe another couple of teams had come to some agreement there could have been a different outcome. Ecclestone couldn't have kicked them all out.

...anyway, as a result, a lot of people are talking about how little TV coverage Force India received this weekend, despite di Resta making it through to Q3. Can't say I noticed it, honestly, but apparently some did and are attributing it to 'a Bernie scorned'.

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Th0mas25
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Posted - 23/04/2012 :  01:59:15  Show Profile  Visit Th0mas25's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Politically, I'm not sure racing was the right thing to do. Some say sport and politics should stay separate, but certainly sporting boycotts have done their bit (in conjunction with other actions) in the past to bring about change, look at South Africa.

But in this case, maybe the publicity of F1 going to Bahrain has done more to highlight the troubles there rather than if they'd quietly decided not to race or raced elsewhere instead.

As a motorsports fan I still watched it though, and what another fantastic race it was, this season's shaping up to be the best one in years IMO


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tuppster
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Posted - 23/04/2012 :  09:05:27  Show Profile  Visit tuppster's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Going ahead with the race has given more publicity to yet another struggle against an oppresive regime. Hopefully, the plight of the protesters will be heard by a wider audience now.


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rollingthunder
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Posted - 23/04/2012 :  11:22:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Theres a lot of similarities between the Bahrain regime and F1. Both are run by dictators. If they speak out they are liable to be gassed/tortured/shot. No one in F1 speaks out lest they incur the wrath of the small chap with the big wallet.
When the wee man gets bored with F1 he can take over running an Arab state. Hes got plenty experience.
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Yard
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Posted - 23/04/2012 :  17:39:49  Show Profile  Visit Yard's Homepage  Reply with Quote
F! is a business and not a sport...well blow me down?

You cannot separate politics and sport it is impossible.

As for sporting boycotts making changes I am not so sure,ask the ordinary man on the streets of South Africa.

New leadership but..?

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