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Badman_batman
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Posted - 11/05/2012 :  23:28:48  Show Profile  Visit Badman_batman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I received a phone call a few days ago off the band that dropped me to "make something of a carrier after being together for 2 months"

Anyway they called to say they made the wrong decision and should have given me more of a chance and the band sounds wrong without a drummer

I told them to kiss my ass, they taught me a lesson, I'm not ready and it really took the fun out of being a new drummer to have so much pressure to be successfull

I now play for fun and I'm back enjoying it at my speed. Big thank you to halfdeadmuffinman! Lessons are awesome mate, massive steps forward

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luke3030
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Posted - 11/05/2012 :  23:42:26  Show Profile  Visit luke3030's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You may just regret saying that. Sure it made you feel good saying it, but when they are regularly playing gigs.....

Ive never left a band on bad terms.

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Badman_batman
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Posted - 11/05/2012 :  23:53:14  Show Profile  Visit Badman_batman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just have more respect for myself than being sloppy seconds, they didn't want me, they needed a more experienced drummer They can't find one so they ask me back, what would you do ?


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luke3030
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Posted - 12/05/2012 :  00:11:29  Show Profile  Visit luke3030's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"sloppy seconds"

What would I do?

Id listen to what they had to say, where they wanted to go, what they would expect from me etc.....Then Id make a decision, and thank them for making contact again.

Who knows what the future holds for that band.

But thats just me. If it made you feeling great saying what you said, and that works for you, then thats your choice. As long as you are happy with your actions, then thats all that matters.

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Mark W
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Posted - 12/05/2012 :  00:24:23  Show Profile  Visit Mark W's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi All

I agree with Luke on this one.
Without going into details, both my son and me have been s**t on over the last 2 days in non music scenarios.
Both times my knee jerk reaction has been to "stick it up them" and give both barrels, & boy would it have felt good to do it.
Now that the dust has settled I'm still seething but a bit of the heat has gone out of the situations & I can see that biting my tonguevwasvthe best course of action to take.
The music scene in the North East is small & incestuous, even if you want nothing to do with the band it might be prudent to get back in touch and apologise for your outburst, perhaps putting it down to the pressure of being new to the band scene.
Just my thoughts,
Mark W

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luke3030
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Posted - 12/05/2012 :  00:50:14  Show Profile  Visit luke3030's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mark W

Hi All

I agree with Luke on this one.
Without going into details, both my son and me have been s**t on over the last 2 days in non music scenarios.
Both times my knee jerk reaction has been to "stick it up them" and give both barrels, & boy would it have felt good to do it.
Now that the dust has settled I'm still seething but a bit of the heat has gone out of the situations & I can see that biting my tonguevwasvthe best course of action to take.
The music scene in the North East is small & incestuous, even if you want nothing to do with the band it might be prudent to get back in touch and apologise for your outburst, perhaps putting it down to the pressure of being new to the band scene.
Just my thoughts,
Mark W



Great point. This was in the back of my mind when writing my earlier post. You just dont know what other bands and musicians they could come into contact with. All it takes is for one band to ask the band you told to **** off, if they know of a drummer, and they aint gonna be recomending you....

I think it comes down to being the "bigger person", and not who has got one over on who. I understand some people find that difficult, but in the music scene, sometimes you gotta bite your tongue.

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lee haydn
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Posted - 12/05/2012 :  01:27:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is this the same band that wanted you to get the dots for Johnny B Goode? even if it is, i would have declined the re-hiring offer a bit more like the others have said, still, youv'e told 'em now, onwards and upwards,,

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Badman_batman
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Posted - 12/05/2012 :  02:28:46  Show Profile  Visit Badman_batman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You would understand why I said it that way if you had heard the way they asked me back believe me

It takes alot to get me to react but they managed it

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Captain Bubble
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Posted - 12/05/2012 :  07:59:33  Show Profile  Visit Captain Bubble's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Do what you feel is right for you. If you are not ready for a band and prefer to play just for fun then there is nothing at all wrong with that.

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beezerk
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Posted - 12/05/2012 :  08:36:30  Show Profile  Visit beezerk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
For what it's worth you did the right thing IMO.
There's stacks of bands out there for when you feel ready to be playing a bit more seriously.
Feeling like cr@p within a band is not good for your mojo and as has already happened, could put you off playing for the long term.
**ck em and practice until you feel you're ready.

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Mark W
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Posted - 12/05/2012 :  08:57:20  Show Profile  Visit Mark W's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi All,
I agree with Beez and the the good Captain that you shouldn't have rejoined the band and you should get yourself together at your own pace.
It's the way in which you' ve spoken to the band that I personally disagree with. In another 24 hours the pleasure you got from your outburst will have gone, the potential come back from what you did could linger forever. I still remember a singer who wanted to join a "proper Metal band" rehearsing with us and afterwards saying he wouldn't join because we were "TOO Metal". And this happened in 1986!!! Of course I wouldn't hold that against him 26 years later if I was starting up a Metal band now (plus he was polite about it do no hard feelings) but I remember it.
And on a significantly less touchy freely note, revenge can be a dish best served cold. At some point in the future if you're playing in a great band and this lot come and see you they'll not be concerned at all because you were the newbie that told them to get stuffed and there's no way they could have worked with you. But if you'd left on good terms they'd be kicking themselves thinking "what might have been".

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Badman_batman
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Posted - 12/05/2012 :  17:22:05  Show Profile  Visit Badman_batman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
To be honest I don't think they will make it at all but I wish them all the best but just not with me, I much prefer the easy life of playing what I want instead of the unnecessary pressure

For a experienced player the band would be great but most of the time I worried and felt out of place as I just couldn't keep up or even create what they want, little embarrassing

But I'm happy and as you buys said that what it's about, if I was unhappy it might have put me off being a drummer completely

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dibs
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Posted - 12/05/2012 :  17:30:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You did and said exactly what I would have done in the same situation....but then I would promptly have regretted my impetuousness. I'm not great at dealing with the people side of being in a band but I've learned that succeeding in a band is only half to do with your drumming. Your personality and ability to deal with what can often be testing personal relationships is just as important. Learn and move on, and as others have said it's a small world so it's often better to bite your tongue and try and maintain the moral high ground.
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Tex
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Posted - 12/05/2012 :  18:14:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Been there. Done that. Didn't hurt a bit. If the lessons and the chops are coming on then follow where they lead.
If you want a job where you're told what to do then you need to know everything. If you don't know everything then some things must be done at your speed.
Now I'm off to do a huge gig in Middleton for loadsa money playing to a pigeon fancier and his dog and the dog's mate Barney.

Sitting on top of the mountain isn't the most interesting bit of the climb. Sitting at the bottom aint much fun either.
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dibs
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Posted - 12/05/2012 :  18:32:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tex

Been there. Done that. Didn't hurt a bit. If the lessons and the chops are coming on then follow where they lead.
If you want a job where you're told what to do then you need to know everything. If you don't know everything then some things must be done at your speed.
Now I'm off to do a huge gig in Middleton for loadsa money playing to a pigeon fancier and his dog and the dog's mate Barney.



Middleton Manchester Tex? I'm from Burnley way - more ferret wranglers over here. What's your band called?
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gryphon
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Posted - 13/05/2012 :  20:12:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nothing wrong in turning them down. You just didn't do it really well. Don't ever burn a bridge, you never know when you'll need to get on the other side of the river.

About a year ago I was let go from a band just as it was beginning to gel after 10 months of rehearsals and spotty shows to make room for a friend of the band's founder. I sent a nice email to all the members of the band, including the founder, saying how great it was to have been able to play with them.

I promptly put another band together with a friend of mine, and we are now working three times as much as the old band. I can't wait for this winter when I can graciously give them the opportunity to open for my current project.

jim
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lee haydn
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Posted - 13/05/2012 :  21:45:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gryphon

Nothing wrong in turning them down. You just didn't do it really well. Don't ever burn a bridge, you never know when you'll need to get on the other side of the river.

About a year ago I was let go from a band just as it was beginning to gel after 10 months of rehearsals and spotty shows to make room for a friend of the band's founder. I sent a nice email to all the members of the band, including the founder, saying how great it was to have been able to play with them.

I promptly put another band together with a friend of mine, and we are now working three times as much as the old band. I can't wait for this winter when I can graciously give them the opportunity to open for my current project.

jim



Sweet,,

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Mark W
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Posted - 13/05/2012 :  22:33:58  Show Profile  Visit Mark W's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Served ICE cold.
Kudos
Mark W

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Badman_batman
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Posted - 14/05/2012 :  08:29:03  Show Profile  Visit Badman_batman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I hope this is what happens for me, that's just awesome

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