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Posted - 18/05/2012 :  16:31:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all, I'm a newbie so I hope this is the right section for this post, just a thought on the general census of putting cymbals in your case, do you put the smallest first & work up or vice vesa

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Posted - 18/05/2012 :  16:39:27  Show Profile  Visit Prog's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What type of case?

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Posted - 18/05/2012 :  16:46:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's an old Premier square type with a central screw post

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Allegro
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Posted - 18/05/2012 :  16:56:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I start with the largest one, and put them away is descending size order; with the exception of the china cymbal, which goes in last.
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Posted - 18/05/2012 :  17:41:47  Show Profile  Visit Prog's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Allegro

I start with the largest one, and put them away is descending size order; with the exception of the china cymbal, which goes in last.

Ah, but which way up?

I have a soft bag with dividers so it's all a bit different.

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Posted - 18/05/2012 :  18:27:34  Show Profile  Visit jamoca's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Largest in first facing down, unless there is a piece of felt in the middle around the screw post to make sure the cymbals don't move.

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Stomper
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Posted - 18/05/2012 :  19:37:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I always put them in smallest , splash , first with a duster between every cymbal. I find they take up less space as they all just about sit flat on the case bottom. If you start with a big ride then stack on top they just pile up and leave a space underneath.

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teethmeister
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Posted - 19/05/2012 :  00:08:50  Show Profile  Visit teethmeister's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I pack cymbals on a case-by-case basis. Generally in the order in which they tesselate most nicely, so that no weight is being borne by the bridge region of any cymbal.

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wibblylad
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Posted - 19/05/2012 :  08:26:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have some custom made cymbal covers that fit over each one, preventing them from rubbing on each other....nifty idea I came up with many moons ago....

Start small, bell upwards (how can you do it any other way?!?), end with the china which fits snug as, creating just the right amount of tension for the retaining wing nut.

It's a 'Freestyle' case I've got. Bought mid '90's. Excellent bit of kit. Not seen a case nearly as good since.

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Johnny
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Posted - 20/05/2012 :  18:40:48  Show Profile  Visit Johnny's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Mine go in a Hardcase with the biggest at the bottom, bell down and then go in size order except my china, if I'm using it, which goes in last as it all fits together better that way. I always mount/ remove them from the kit in this order one by one and it (probably unnecessarily) pi555es me off if I get the hi hats the wrong way round and I get to the top one in the case first as I don't like having two out of the case but not on stands at a time as I just know one day one will get stood on.

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Allegro
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Posted - 21/05/2012 :  09:09:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Prog

quote:
Originally posted by Allegro

I start with the largest one, and put them away is descending size order; with the exception of the china cymbal, which goes in last.

Ah, but which way up?

I have a soft bag with dividers so it's all a bit different.

They go into the hard case with the bell fitting into the recess in the case (upside down, although it's debatable for the china).
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gdrumfoot
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Posted - 21/05/2012 :  13:41:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll ask the wife ;-)

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DSM
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Posted - 23/05/2012 :  13:57:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
reading this i am starting to feel guilty about just sticking mine in a cymbal bag without dividers ! and not with kid gloves either.

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paiste
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Posted - 23/05/2012 :  16:55:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DSM

reading this i am starting to feel guilty about just sticking mine in a cymbal bag without dividers ! and not with kid gloves either.



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MacDB7
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Posted - 26/05/2012 :  01:25:00  Show Profile  Visit MacDB7's Homepage  Reply with Quote
When it comes to hard cymbal cases each make has a different moulding that determines whether it's bell down or up.
Using felt dividers will ensure the cymbals don't rub/scratch against each other (I have a big problem because of my two riveted rides).

Using a soft case (I have a deluxe pro rachet with two compartments and dividers) I put my hats in either side of the small compartment with the smaller cymbals in between, in the larger compartment, similarly, I put my largest cymbals on either side with the small cymbals (including the riveted 19" & 20" ride) in between.

Hope that helps in some way.

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PhilR
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Posted - 26/05/2012 :  12:12:12  Show Profile  Visit PhilR's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ride at the back then work up with my 20" china at the front due to it's size & shape. Hihats in front pocket.

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johnthedrum
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Posted - 21/08/2012 :  09:34:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought it was just me that has to both set up and pack away my precious Zildjians in a specific order, and I hadn't realised I too only have one cymbal out at any one time, until they're all on stands.If(as I have been doing recently) I only use some of my cymbals, I even have to re-pack the ones not in use safely away in the case.
As far as putting them away, I use a Zildjian Cymbal safe that I've had forever -at least 25 years -and I always put my cymbals away, largest first, bell down, with either a thick plastic (cymbal) bag or thin duster between each one, then they're all locked down tightish with cymbal felts and the locking nuts. So far so good.
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neil lowe
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Posted - 21/08/2012 :  16:00:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'm probably guilty of being a little rough with my cymbals.they go into a padded bag,no dividers,largest first then work my way backwards.the smallest i use is an 18" crash,the hats have their own compartment on the front of the case.mine have never come to any harm;i don't clean them,they are covered in fingerprints and sweat,they sound absolutely glorious.zildjian 21" dry ride (70s)for crashing;20" sabian aa heavy ride (90s);5 star super zyn,20"(60s/70s);18" zildjian avedis crash (60s/70s);zildjian 14" mastersound hats (sound edge bottom,90s).i play at least 150 gigs per year and have never had a problem.happy days!!

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Soporif
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Posted - 21/08/2012 :  16:14:27  Show Profile  Visit Soporif's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I put each one in a separate bag. Some Tesco's, some Co-op. Bag-for-life for the ride, mind.

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Posted - 21/08/2012 :  16:16:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Smallest first in circular hard case with central post: splash, 13 or 14 hats, 16, 18, with pads between. The Sabian 22 HH and Bosphorus 20 go in separate fur lined Protection Racket cases. Been using a vintage Ajax 20 riveted instead of the Bosphorus recently. It was a gift from one of the lovely inmates here, and I think it sounds better than the Bosphorus. OK, so my ears are fecked...

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Henry Piper
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Posted - 22/08/2012 :  08:59:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Prog

[quote]Originally posted by Allegro

I start with the largest one, and put them away is descending size order; with the exception of the china cymbal, which goes in last.

Ah, but which way up?

The Right way up of course !!!

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Allegro
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Posted - 23/08/2012 :  08:45:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Henry Piper

quote:
Originally posted by Allegro

I start with the largest one, and put them away is descending size order; with the exception of the china cymbal, which goes in last.

Ah, but which way up?

The Right way up of course !!!


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Posted - 27/08/2012 :  11:58:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Big to small, then china last, in a fleece-lined protection racket soft case, each in the plastic bag it came in.

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