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GrethGBDrums
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Posted - 31/05/2012 :  22:25:30  Show Profile  Visit GrethGBDrums's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi all,

I am looking to record my drums from the studio space I rent and I have a few queries....

I was thinking of using two overheads and a kick drum mic - taking the signal into a Mackie 1604VLZ Pro and then taking it out as individual tracks onto a Laptop. Would this work or would I be better micing up all the drums?

What would the best overheads be? I use a Shure Beta52A kick drum mic. For the overheads I have a budget of about £200-£300.

Does anyone have any recommendations for software? I have previously used Cubase and Protools but would need to upgrade my software.

I am new to home recording and I'm hoping that you guys can help!

Gareth Burnett - www.garethdrums.com - Follow Gareth on Twitter: @GarethGBDrums

larold
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Posted - 31/05/2012 :  23:05:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Gareth,

I don't have first hand experience of any of there stuff, but I'd say definitely check out SE electronics... You'll be able to get something within your price range and a whole load of people have recommended them to me especially in that price range!

Laurence.

www.youtube.com/laurenceclack
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Tobba
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Posted - 31/05/2012 :  23:42:04  Show Profile  Visit Tobba's Homepage  Reply with Quote
hi.

First of all, im no expert at this at all, so from one amateur to another:

i think that if you position the overheads right, you will get a good result. Don't be afraid to experiment with mic plasement.
for overhead use i recomend sontronics stc-1s. Fantastic mics for the price. You can also add omni and hypercardiod capsules wich is a good option to have. I have also had great results with røde nt5, but i prefer the sontronics.

Regarding software: i have recently started to use reaper. It's cheap and works werry well, mutch better then nuendo wich i used before.
good luck.

PREMIER all the way
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Captain Bubble
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Posted - 01/06/2012 :  08:58:53  Show Profile  Visit Captain Bubble's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If the studio has reasonable acoustics you could also try a Pressure Zone Mic/Boundary Mic. Thomann sell some of these. Place it on a BIG surface, floor, wall or ceiling. This will get a good overall sound, then add "focus" mics like BD, O/H or snare if needed (and if you want the extra punch from close mic'ing.

Plenty of reasonable OH mics around, I have a pair of El Cheapo Behringer C2s which many people automatically deride as cheap, but actually they are very good indeed, and only about £40 for a pair (dv247.com). However as you have more money available you have more choice. The C2s, like most mics of that type do need 48 V Phantom Power, if your set up does not have this you will have to get pre-amp(s) or power supplies which do, I have a couple of Behringer Tube Ultragain Mic 100s and these are great, the tube part allowing overdrive.

I have Cubase 4 and I love it, but now I think they are on 6. If you JUST want to record basic demos that is one thing, but in the future you might want to expand into proper recordings so worth keeping an eye on how you would upgrade your set up. I have found Digital Village staff to be pretty helpful, to exp[lain, and to make recommendations on the customer's needs and wants, rather than pushing you to buy THEIR favourite gear!

Marcus de Mowbray
www.330studios.co.uk/marcus
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dogface
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Posted - 01/06/2012 :  09:57:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the starting point should be the kind of music/sound that you're trying to achieve. On another thread in the Drummer's Forum there's a thread about 60's Motown style library music - it sounds very authentic. Drums were recorded with one overhead and one BD mic.
On the other hand if you want a very modern punchy rock sound you'll probably want to close mic everything individually. There is no one correct or best way to record which is applicable to all styles of music. Do a lot of experimenting and see what works for you.
As for mics, there are far more available at much lower prices than there were even just 10 years ago. Lots of them have different names on them but probably come out of the same factory in China. £200 will get you a decent pair of overheads whichever brand you choose.
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GrethGBDrums
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/06/2012 :  13:26:24  Show Profile  Visit GrethGBDrums's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi guys,

Thanks very much for spending you time to reply! I am going to shop around see what I can get and do some more research.

I will post with how I get on.

Cheers

G

Gareth Burnett - www.garethdrums.com - Follow Gareth on Twitter: @GarethGBDrums
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GrethGBDrums
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/07/2012 :  18:49:04  Show Profile  Visit GrethGBDrums's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi guys, Just a quick message to say I finally got my studio up and running today. Thanks for all your help. Once I've got a recording done I post it here for you all to see/hear! Cheers

Gareth Burnett - www.garethdrums.com - Follow Gareth on Twitter: @GarethGBDrums
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