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OriginalAnimal
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Posted - 31/05/2012 :  23:58:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We had been booked to play the Manhattan 34 bar in central Leicester

This was to be our second gig there.
On arrival they informed us that a noise limiter had been installed by the council, the level was 85db


We soon found out that even with the Jobeky kit we could not manage more than two bars into a number without it tripping!

the council had set the levels with an ipod!!!! and refused to answer the phone.


80 metres up the road is another pub, thge 'Ale Wagon' We asked if they wanted a band for free, they said yes, so we asked our not considerable audience to help and they carried our set up over, where e had a great gig

And of course they want us back

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paiste
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Posted - 01/06/2012 :  00:08:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
85dB is nothing!! There's nothing worse than playing with a noise limiter. You spend the entire time tranfixed on not staying in the red, ignoring the audience

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dibs
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Posted - 01/06/2012 :  01:52:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Am I naiive in believing that everyone bypassed these things!? Any venue 'ere ooop north that has one of these things installed seems to have some manner of "disabling" it or bypassing it. I'm never anywhere near at the time guv'nor - I don't have anything to do with anything that needs plugging it. It's witchcraft that there electrickery. I suspect things aren't done the way they should be around these parts. Why they even *gasp* still smoke indoors in some of the very naughtiest places. It's anarchy.
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Bazarre
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Posted - 01/06/2012 :  09:02:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
An extension lead from the kitchen usually works.

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Sharklaar
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Posted - 01/06/2012 :  09:07:50  Show Profile  Visit Sharklaar's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Played a place in Horncastle at the weekend where they didn't have a limiter but they had a hand-held noise level meter, and we were 'politely asked' not to exceed 100db as they had previously had complaints and had an arrangement with neighbours. We struggled with 100db but just about managed to keep them happy. I normally hit 'em pretty hard and found it difficult to tickle the snare without getting carried away.

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logic_user99
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Posted - 01/06/2012 :  09:15:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I was at Leeds College of Music (some 12 years ago) they installed limiters INTO THE PRACTICE ROOMS. Every time I went into practice kit, one decent wallop of the bass drum would set it off and kill the power in the room. No number of complaints got them to de-limit them.

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johncc
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Posted - 01/06/2012 :  13:14:21  Show Profile  Visit johncc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Shark, just seen you were playing Horncastle last weekend....was that Old Nick's? I'm playing percussion there tonight :-)

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Sharklaar
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Posted - 01/06/2012 :  13:18:30  Show Profile  Visit Sharklaar's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah that was indeed Old Nick's - really nice place I thought. I don't think we were really what they wanted - they asked us to do 'a few covers', so we dropped 5 covers into two sets of originals. The crowd seemed to enjoy it though and we got paid OK, but from what they said they probably would have liked more covers than originals.

They have a good way of paying you there - they give you a base rate, and at the end of each set they pass a beer jug round the crowd for a collection - you get the collection at the end. I think everyone wins here, the pub don't lose out if the place is empty, the crowd don't pay a door fee and don't have to pay if they think you're rubbish, and if you're good you get decent $$.

Good luck with the gig, I'm sure you'll enjoy it! Say hi to them from us, lovely people :)

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johncc
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Posted - 01/06/2012 :  13:22:16  Show Profile  Visit johncc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's one of my local haunts.... I'll pass on your regards :-)

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metallicpearl
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Posted - 01/06/2012 :  13:26:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Old Nick's is a lovely little music pub.

Back on topic...85dB?!?!

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kruppers
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  11:34:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have played a gig in South London where they have a limiter. Very nice red light that flashes on all the time. The landlord always tells us to plug in a specific place and avoid its nonsense. Its live music FFS. I love watching it to see the longest period it can stay red for....

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Jayremedy
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  17:41:44  Show Profile  Visit Jayremedy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I hate these things with a passion, I don't have a volume knob! lucky up here your rarely come across them.

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tuppster
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Posted - 05/06/2012 :  16:30:09  Show Profile  Visit tuppster's Homepage  Reply with Quote
So far, every place I've played with a noise limiter has turned it off or deactivated it somehow.


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edgriff
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Posted - 08/06/2012 :  22:22:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
'temporarily' gaffa taping a plastic bag tightly over the limiter mic has been known to work wonders if you can get to it...
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OriginalAnimal
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Posted - 09/06/2012 :  10:58:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by edgriff

'temporarily' gaffa taping a plastic bag tightly over the limiter mic has been known to work wonders if you can get to it...



It turns out, that the person that lives above the bar, has monitoring equipment in his premises, fed by the limiter, which also detects any form of tampering. he is also Our elected mayor

We won't be playing there again, shame as their Mahou is a tasty pint.

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luke3030
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Posted - 09/06/2012 :  17:35:44  Show Profile  Visit luke3030's Homepage  Reply with Quote
No limiter last night but Police arrived and we were asked to tone down. I loved playing GnR and Rainbow with my hot-rods. I felt he guitarist struggled a bit, but one sign of a good band is one that can change the sound of their songs at a moments notice.

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OriginalAnimal
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Posted - 10/06/2012 :  08:48:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by luke3030

No limiter last night but Police arrived and we were asked to tone down. I loved playing GnR and Rainbow with my hot-rods. I felt he guitarist struggled a bit, but one sign of a good band is one that can change the sound of their songs at a moments notice.



True.

We tried, but even using brushes on the Jobeky with the pa turned off tripped the limiter!!

Whereas last night we were playing a party in a marquee, in the middle of dense housing and didn't get one complaint


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kruppers
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Posted - 25/05/2013 :  10:49:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Played a gig last night at a local pub with my folk band. They INSISTED we use the limited circuits (we'd found somewhere else to plug in). It was a fekin nightmare. What is the point of having live music if you are not allowed to perform it? It wasnt even me setting the damn thing off, whenever the singers gave it some welly, it all went quiet. FFS. We play another venue in SE London and they always show us where to plug in and avoid the evil thing, GRRRR!!

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Pabs
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Posted - 25/05/2013 :  11:25:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where do i buy one of these limiters?
Need one for the house...for the missus !!

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kruppers
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Posted - 25/05/2013 :  12:37:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pabs

Where do i buy one of these limiters?
Need one for the house...for the missus !!



- Mrs Kruppers reading this is muttering darkly....

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Tex
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Posted - 25/05/2013 :  17:08:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They're usually pitch based as well. Had to take one tome off a six piece one time and all was well after that. I could batter the usual out of the kit but that one tom set the trip off when you breathed on it. The bass travels furthest so just try turning that down first and maybe a little more damping on the bass drum. I know the bassist will kick and scream but he must be told. Sign language usually because they're probably deaf.

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Posted - 25/05/2013 :  19:11:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My band has a marquee gig booked later in the year where, I am told, they have jazz quartets and 'quiet' stuff so as not to annoy the neighbours. The marquee is in the grounds of a hotel in the middle of nowhere. Do I take my Roland kit, or just ignore them and rock out as usual? The band are going to struggle to keep the volume down.

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OriginalAnimal
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Posted - 25/05/2013 :  23:30:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WendyB

My band has a marquee gig booked later in the year where, I am told, they have jazz quartets and 'quiet' stuff so as not to annoy the neighbours. The marquee is in the grounds of a hotel in the middle of nowhere. Do I take my Roland kit, or just ignore them and rock out as usual? The band are going to struggle to keep the volume down.



Take your regular kit and make sure you have plenty of monitors, Marquees have no reflective surfaces and you may find it difficult to hear each other, the hotel must have ok'd the band when the client booked, so don't worry

I have no time to practice, I'm gigging. Leicester Drum Sniffers Anonymous. #17 of the 582 & 17 0f the 798 World Record Holders.
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