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G Lo
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 17/08/2012 : 13:21:42
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My wife and I have a constant battle about tihs. They are curently in our bedroom (along with my electric kit) and she is not best pleased about this - tbh her main isssue is the bass drum - the floor tom is on top of a wardrobe and the rest fits under the bed - but a 20x20 BD is never going to fit anywhere easily!
"None of my friends have drums in their bedrooms"
I don't reply that some have great big bloody bas amps in their living rooms - it's not the response she wants really.
My question is - how bad would it be to strore the bass drum in my garage - it's bagged in a Peral bag. My old kit - that wasn't cased went rusty in there. It's an old detached garage - the kind that are probably made out of pure asbestos. I would keep it off the floor somehow.
Thoughts and help gratefully received.... |
Gretsch Black Widow mini-mod and a selection of Paiste 2002s
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Prog
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United Kingdom
21184 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2012 : 13:24:57
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Moisture is the problem. Is the garage dry? You could always put silica gel in the cases.
I'm very lucky in that we have a drum room. It was high on the list when we were house hunting.  |
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hat trick
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United Kingdom
2641 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2012 : 13:27:59
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Try making up the sofa for her, that way the bass drum would'nt bother her 
I don't like the garage idea either, have you a cupboard under the stairs? |
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swampy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/08/2012 : 13:31:03
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| Make a wooden top for it and utilise it as a bedside table |
Mid life crisis kicked in, drum kit bought. It's not quite like cycling though, you forget. A lot! |
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G Lo
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United Kingdom
414 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2012 : 13:33:14
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The garage is fairly dry - I'll look into how I can check exactly how dry - I like the gel idea.
I really don't want them in the garage - but may have to compromise.
And Prog - we're hoping to extend in a year or 2 - I have ideas for plans - that do involve a storeroom..... |
Gretsch Black Widow mini-mod and a selection of Paiste 2002s
Playing some loud Britpop!!
http://s1135.photobucket.com/albums/m638/G_Lo12/ |
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benjisonfire
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United Kingdom
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lee haydn
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United Kingdom
2035 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2012 : 13:36:57
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| Pro Racket are best with the fleece lining fighting off the moisture, a silica gel pack as Prog suggested isn't a bad idea too,, Have you got a wooden shed?, because wood breathes moisture isn't as big an issue as in a brick or concrete out house,, i found this out to my cost once, i used to have a Honda Goldwing with all the expensive chrome bling fitted, my mate stored it in his garage for a few weeks (youre wife moans about about a bass drum in the bedroom, my bike lived in our back room) and the chrome went surface rusty,, |
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Andy P
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G Lo
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
414 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2012 : 13:42:11
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Thanks for all the replies. Would the temperature cause a problem in a shed/ garage? I haven't got a shed but if it would store my stuff - I'd use gig money to get one....
I do like the table idea ..... However if I suggested it I'd need a smiley with 2 black eyes! |
Gretsch Black Widow mini-mod and a selection of Paiste 2002s
Playing some loud Britpop!!
http://s1135.photobucket.com/albums/m638/G_Lo12/ |
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logic_user99
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/08/2012 : 13:48:03
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| I wouldn't leave the kit anywhere that nature or potentially inclement temperatures / weather could get at it. I suppose if it was a purpose-built, climate controlled storage room it'd be OK... |
Drums | Cymbals | Sticks
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lee haydn
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/08/2012 : 14:01:32
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| You'd only need a 6'x4' tops, as long as the shed is good quality tongue and groove construction seated on slabs not earth you ought to be sorted, if you go that way, once erected, drill out the hinge screws, (thieves can take off the hinges otherwise) and sink a door stop bar for added security, theives would need an angle grinder for those,, |
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jamoca
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/08/2012 : 14:18:24
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quote:
Originally posted by Prog
Moisture is the problem. Is the garage dry? You could always put silica gel in the cases.
I'm very lucky in that we have a drum room. It was high on the list when we were house hunting.
If you want to go down the garage route, you could take this one step further and fashion a big homemade "moisture absorber" - the great idea for this was on here - when I had older cars I used to put some cat litter crystals into a sock* - absorbed moisture like nothing I've ever seen! When they absorb enough and get a bit damp (normally in cooler temperatures), stick them on the radiator overnight and they dry up again. Chuck a couple into your case and they'll do the same thing as a whole bag full of silica gel packets.
To get it off the floor, get an old pallet.
* I actually used a section of ladies tights - don't laugh, it worked way better and dried quicker than a sock due to being a lot thinner! |
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jamoca
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/08/2012 : 14:19:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Prog
Moisture is the problem. Is the garage dry? You could always put silica gel in the cases.
I'm very lucky in that we have a drum room. It was high on the list when we were house hunting.
Great idea, but a luxury for most - especially if you're buying anywhere in a place like London, where an extra room can cost nearly 6 figures! |
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Prog
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United Kingdom
21184 Posts |
Posted - 17/08/2012 : 14:31:35
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| It used to be an outbuilding/coal shed tacked on to the back of the house but is now part of the main building, along with the previously outside toilet. I'm lucky that Mrs Prog is very supportive when it comes to my drumming or it'd be a knitting room by now. |
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Muttzknuttz1
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/08/2012 : 14:53:18
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quote:
Originally posted by Prog
Moisture is the problem. Is the garage dry? You could always put silica gel in the cases.
I'm very lucky in that we have a drum room. It was high on the list when we were house hunting.
Okay, so I never read the whole OP, just up to the part where G Lo says quote:
"None of my friends have drums in their bedrooms"
coffe on screen moment readin Prog's first sentence!!
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moosetication
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/08/2012 : 15:14:28
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| Nothing wrong with keeping drums in a garage. Been doing it for over a decade now. Decent bags, silica sachets, keep 'em off the floor and stop them touching the wall. Pick up a pallet from somewhere and the job's a good'un. |
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gaz farrimond
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/08/2012 : 15:46:00
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Mine are currently stored in the garage. They are in bags, with silica gel packs on a carpet raised off the floor. The only place I haven't stored drums in the garage was in Scotland because the house was big enough to have a storage room.
I check them over once a week but so far, I haven't had any issues over the years.
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Originally posted by jamoca
If you want to go down the garage route, you could take this one step further and fashion a big homemade "moisture absorber" - the great idea for this was on here - when I had older cars I used to put some cat litter crystals into a sock* - absorbed moisture like nothing I've ever seen!
I like this idea. Will be giving it a try.
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OriginalAnimal
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/08/2012 : 22:36:33
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| Mine live in my trailer, no issues. Previously they were stored in the utility room along with 'cat litter socks' no problems af all. |
I have no time to practice, I'm gigging. Leicester Drum Sniffers Anonymous. #17 of the 582 & 17 0f the 798 World Record Holders.
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gaz farrimond
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/08/2012 : 22:53:00
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Originally posted by OriginalAnimal
Mine live in my trailer, no issues. Previously they were stored in the utility room along with 'cat litter socks' no problems af all.
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murphster
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/08/2012 : 22:15:22
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Also store mine in garage and hasn't been a problem so far. In lined bags and off the floor too.
Would love the luxery of storing in the house but just not enough room I'm afraid. |
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monkeythedrummer
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/08/2012 : 22:25:20
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Are there such things as really really large zipping polythene bags that keep stuff dry, regardless of the outside humidity?
Another option is chop it down so it fits under the bed.
2 x 20x10 bass drums? |
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lee haydn
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/08/2012 : 00:55:55
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quote:
Originally posted by monkeythedrummer
[br]Are there such things as really really large zipping polythene bags that keep stuff dry, regardless of the outside humidity?
Another option is chop it down so it fits under the bed.
2 x 20x10 bass drums?
Yeah, you can get plastic air bags that are kept inflated and air conditioned, classic car and motorbike collectors use them, ain't cheap though,, |
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G Lo
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United Kingdom
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G Lo
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United Kingdom
414 Posts |
Posted - 24/12/2012 : 10:51:21
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Right - thanks to Luke and Facebook my bd is now in PR case in the garage with clitta sox.....
I'll keep ya posted! |
Gretsch Black Widow mini-mod and a selection of Paiste 2002s
Playing some loud Britpop!!
http://s1135.photobucket.com/albums/m638/G_Lo12/ |
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OriginalAnimal
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/12/2012 : 12:11:06
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As this has re-appeared, I once knew a guy that rebuilt an old triumph motorcycle in his bedroom, then had to ride it down the stairs and out of the front door once finished.
G.Lo your wife doesn't know she's been born, I used to keep two race bikes (motor) one behind the sofa in the living room and the other in the kitchen/workshop and Mrs OA never complained |
I have no time to practice, I'm gigging. Leicester Drum Sniffers Anonymous. #17 of the 582 & 17 0f the 798 World Record Holders.
Jobeky, 2Box Drumit 5, Premier, Highwood/DM drums Paul Brook Snare, Matt Nolan cymbals, Silverstone Drum (seats) Thrones. Los Cabos drumsticks
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norsknick
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United Kingdom
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Prog
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/12/2012 : 22:05:33
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| Isn't it funny how life changes. I no longer have a drum room as I'm technically homeless. |
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lee haydn
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/12/2012 : 23:01:21
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| Sh*t happens eh Chris, sorry for your predicament,, |
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gryphon
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USA
1177 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2013 : 07:25:11
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I have stored drums in a garage in plastic bin liners(get the heavy ones they sell for construction debris) in temperatures ranging down to -25C. with no ill effects. Mentioned it a while back and and the idea of using plastic bin liners was sneered at by the community here. Nonetheless, they work. Just put the cased drum in the liner and tie the opening shut. Do it indoors with warm drums and you will be sealing in dry air. Toss in a few silica packs if it makes you feel better.
Since any condensation will form on the inside surface of the bin liner putting the cased drum in the liner will protect the surface of the drum from contact with what little water may condense. Also, if you use clear liners you can see if you have a problem with too much condensation(wasn't a problem for me).
If you know anyone in the plastics business you may ask if they have access to used gaylord liners. These are very large(>1m*3) and made of the heaviest film(>.4mm). |
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fatty
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/01/2013 : 20:54:01
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With ply it should be stored in the same humid conditions in which it was made. I think in the US it is considered at about 8% moisture content for internal use e.g.in a heated dwelling.
Timber shrinks and expands in accordance within the environment it is stored as it absorbs moisture. If it is in a cold damp place it is likely to start doing horrible things to drums, like delaminating the ply. This is the guidance for construction and i would have thought this would apply to drums, unless we have a boffin who could advise otherwise on the optimal conditions?
Other experienced Drummers have always advised me to keep them indoors in a dry normally heated place, like a spare room for example.
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