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Mcmaul
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 03/04/2011 : 23:36:00
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| Anybody know of this obscure drum maker?? I have stumbled upon one of his prototypes from the 50's, complete with schematics/patent paperwork, etc. |
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FenTiger
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/04/2011 : 23:56:10
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Evening Dug.
There was a short article about them in Geoff Nicholls' "Drum Oddities" in Rhythm a few months ago. I'll dig it out. |
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dogface
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/04/2011 : 09:45:54
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There used to be a shop in Manchester called Reno's
http://www.manchesterbeat.com/shops/renos/renos.php
I'm not sure if they were the ones making the drums or not. Coincidentally, there was a Reno's drum on Ebay recently. At first I thought it was a spelling mistake. |
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FenTiger
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/04/2011 : 11:04:52
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Originally posted by dogface
There used to be a shop in Manchester called Reno's
http://www.manchesterbeat.com/shops/renos/renos.php
I'm not sure if they were the ones making the drums or not. Coincidentally, there was a Reno's drum on Ebay recently. At first I thought it was a spelling mistake.
They were. I think they moved production there too. |
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Tam
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United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2011 : 11:29:36
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Bob Henrit did a Vintage Vault on Reno drums in Rhythm a few years back. Maybe the article will be repeated on the MD main site.
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All the best, Tam
http://vintprem.moonfruit.com |
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Bazarre
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United Kingdom
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Captain Bubble
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/04/2011 : 17:31:15
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| IIRC one Reno snare drum design featured a frame which held the tension mechanism on the inside of the shell. |
Marcus de Mowbray
www.330studios.co.uk/marcus |
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FenTiger
Advanced Contributer
United Kingdom
5556 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2011 : 19:33:52
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Originally posted by FenTiger
..There was a short article about them in Geoff Nicholls' "Drum Oddities" in Rhythm a few months ago. I'll dig it out.
Found it! June 2010. There are some photos of a Reno Masterpiece Pressure Ring" floor tom with the internal tensioning system that Marcus mentioned, which featured single key tuning. Jimmy Reno began production in Altrincham after WWII, using up plywood which had been stockpiled for building aeroplanes, and moved to Oxford Street in 1955.
It also says "Thanks to Bob Henrit and Mike Ellis" 
Got any pictures Dug? Some scans of the paperwork would be great. |
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Mcmaul
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United Kingdom
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FenTiger
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/04/2011 : 20:18:18
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Originally posted by Mcmaul
Here's a coupla pics...
That's the first one that I've seen which hasn't got pretend chrome lugs on the outside of the shell, not that I've seen that many.
Funnily enough, I have a pair of 60s Sonor bongos which use the same principle for tightening the heads, but being single headed they just have a handle to turn inside the shell: http://tinyurl.com/3jt989l |
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mikeellis
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Posted - 04/04/2011 : 20:55:45
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| I have a copy of much bigger feature on Reno Drums published in Rhythm in 1992-ish, I sent a copy to Geoff for the recent article. When I was nipper first learning to play, my first drum buddy had a Reno rack tom on his 'Bitsa' kit. What a nightmare, totally spent calfskin heads...... |
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Mcmaul
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United Kingdom
5945 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2011 : 21:14:05
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| If anybody would like thisdrum, I can acquire it on request, it has a lot of paperwork with it, and is very unusual. |
Curator of all things Mahogany duroplastic and Black shadow tinged. |
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mikeellis
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Posted - 04/04/2011 : 21:15:14
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Tam
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United Kingdom
2016 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2011 : 23:28:53
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It looks similar to Leedy and Ludwig`s knob tension system. But theirs had seperate tension, that looks like both heads as tightened as the same time.
There were 3 Reno drums at one of the NDF`s but I can`t remember when it was.
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All the best, Tam
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drumdmc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/04/2011 : 18:01:48
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| It was either the first or second one at The Red Barn Tam i remember them, they were damn heavy and needed a bit of work. I'm sure they were in WMP wrap. |
Resonators and Ufips....just beautiful. www.vintageolympic.co.uk
Rotocasting is definitely the pinnacle of cymbal manufacture!
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheUFIPCYMBALS
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brinzo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/08/2011 : 20:40:01
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| ye jimmy reno , i have a four piece pressure ring kit, quite rare in kit form, i have a lead to find out more , i'll let you know what i find out,.!!! |
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capt.wierd
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Posted - 25/08/2011 : 20:55:25
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Originally posted by tipekass.the@gmail.com
ye jimmy reno , i have a four piece pressure ring kit, quite rare in kit form, i have a lead to find out more , i'll let you know what i find out,.!!!
I was wondering if you were going to post about your Reno kit
Hey Paul, how about posting some pics? |
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Captain Bubble
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United Kingdom
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Mcmaul
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United Kingdom
5945 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2011 : 07:32:02
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| I still have this proto tom with all schematics, etc, need to move it on to somebody who'll appreciate it. |
Curator of all things Mahogany duroplastic and Black shadow tinged. |
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FenTiger
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/08/2011 : 13:57:58
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| I've just got my copy of Old Drummer Club and a member is selling a snare, 12x8 tom and 14x14 floor tom, all in need of work. I'm quite tempted. |
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Mcmaul
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/08/2011 : 18:26:00
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| well come and get this old thing of mine, too, Fenster!! |
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FenTiger
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/08/2011 : 19:33:02
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Originally posted by Mcmaul
well come and get this old thing of mine, too, Fenster!!
I mustn't. I'm trying to clear some room and I'm getting there slowly. I can even see bits of the floor in my shed now! |
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brinzo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/08/2011 : 18:54:55
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[quote]Originally posted by tipekass.the@gmail.com
ye jimmy reno , i have a four piece pressure ring kit, quite rare in kit form, i have a lead to find out more , i'll let you know what i find out,.!!!
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quote] thanks all you guys for your interest in the reno, got problems with pc, however i have notified a friend and he has a photo maybe two, or anyone of you can email me and i'll gladly send you some reno pics, thanks ,. |
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capt.wierd
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Mcmaul
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United Kingdom
5945 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2011 : 19:20:11
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| My tom is an IDENTICAL match for that kit in its finish!!! |
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Mcmaul
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/08/2011 : 19:29:08
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| Just had a read of that drum history, Reno's shop on Oxford street wasn't shut in 1979, and demolished. I went in there in around 1984 admiring his 2002 cymbals as a skint 15 year old. I paid £75 for the tom, was hoping to get me dough back on it from an enthusiast. Inc paperwork schematics, etc. |
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brinzo
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United Kingdom
193 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2011 : 23:51:23
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| the reno was at the NDF saturday, just wondered what you guys thought, ?, |
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capt.wierd
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USA
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 00:22:14
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Originally posted by brinzo
the reno was at the NDF saturday, just wondered what you guys thought, ?,
Yepper, That was Tipekass of this here shire, hoped you said "Hello"
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Mcmaul
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United Kingdom
5945 Posts |
Posted - 25/09/2011 : 22:04:31
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| I thought it was top drawer mate, very distinctive. |
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Resonator72
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United Kingdom
578 Posts |
Posted - 25/09/2011 : 23:25:07
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| i saw it, probs one of the nicest things that caught my eye to be honest. Had a chat to a guy sat behind it in a suit, but he said it was nothing to do with him!!! |
www.nickhopkindrums.com
Classic vintage drum kits, snares, accessories, spares |
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capt.wierd
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USA
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Posted - 25/09/2011 : 23:37:43
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Originally posted by Resonator72
i saw it, probs one of the nicest things that caught my eye to be honest. Had a chat to a guy sat behind it in a suit, but he said it was nothing to do with him!!!
Well one of the 2 guys there was Paul, I think Paul was the younger of the 2
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brinzo
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Posted - 26/09/2011 : 20:02:25
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| ah ah, sounds like eric meant, was me did all the work, bless him, |
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capt.wierd
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Posted - 25/10/2011 : 13:38:04
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Originally posted by Mcmaul
I still have this proto tom with all schematics, etc, need to move it on to somebody who'll appreciate it.
Dug, I'd check with Paul Brayans with his Reno kit. He displayed it as this years NDF and wants to bring it next year as well. The paper work could be made into a display poster and the drum used as an early example of Reno's work |
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Mcmaul
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/10/2011 : 16:35:13
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| I need to sell it, Cap, it's not my bag. He can have it for 75 sheets!! |
Curator of all things Mahogany duroplastic and Black shadow tinged. |
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brinzo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/10/2011 : 21:22:53
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hey dug , lets talk , capt got my email, this drum yours, can you post more pics?,.
also im thinking of restoring the reno!, anyone know who would take on such a task?, your thoughts are always welcome guys, thanks,. |
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FenTiger
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/10/2011 : 23:52:57
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Originally posted by brinzo
hey dug , lets talk , capt got my email, this drum yours, can you post more pics?,.
also im thinking of restoring the reno!, anyone know who would take on such a task?, your thoughts are always welcome guys, thanks,.
Which parts need restoring Paul? |
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brinzo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/10/2011 : 00:20:24
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| was thinking maybe a re wrap,is that to ambitious, |
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capt.wierd
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Posted - 26/10/2011 : 00:25:40
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Originally posted by brinzo
was thinking maybe a re wrap,is that to ambitious,
Jeremy, I don't think a rewrap would be advised, that may reduce the value of the kit |
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Mcmaul
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/10/2011 : 14:59:28
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| LEAVE IT AS IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The wrap is unique. Email me regarding the tom on darthmcleod at em ess en dot com. |
Curator of all things Mahogany duroplastic and Black shadow tinged. |
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FenTiger
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/10/2011 : 15:09:22
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| ^^^ Wot they said ^^^ |
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brinzo
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United Kingdom
193 Posts |
Posted - 26/10/2011 : 17:07:48
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"thats that settled then",.HOWEVER, wot about the wrap on the floor tom its split top to bottom half inch apart on the joint, get yer eds round that one,im sure you will !!!!,.
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capt.wierd
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Posted - 26/10/2011 : 17:42:07
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| I'm going to regret posting this, is an even joint or a ragged split joint |
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capt.wierd
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USA
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Posted - 26/10/2011 : 17:44:48
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| Oh, Guys, he need articles about Reno drums, anything so Paul can make posters out of them to add to his display at next years NDF. Even advertisements in magazines of that era |
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brinzo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/10/2011 : 21:13:56
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| ah ah, that could have gone tits up,! "even cap,its even", but its lifted or should i say bubbled a little further in from the lift, al put some pics on in a bit, wondered if we could get away with a chrome strip, you tell me your the guys who know, thanks paul,. |
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brinzo
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capt.wierd
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Posted - 26/10/2011 : 23:09:58
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Its off to the woman's dept, you need the thinest fingernail board, then over to the sewing section, look for tape that is closest to the colour of the kit. They tape about 2 inches in width. Next, try to find some non 3M glue,(LOL), contact or rubber cement is good.
Ok you've made it thru the woman's section, hopefully unscathed, take the fingernail board and carefully file off the old glue on the wrap and shell. Neaten up the edge with fingerboard, using a very small throw away brush, paint a thin coat of glue on the shell and wrap, wait till it drys, firmly press them together and hold in place, ok that's done. Next, measure the space between the butt joints, cut the tape to fit in the length and width of the butt joint, press the tape on the shell. You're not bothered that it doesn't match, its an antique |
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brinzo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/10/2011 : 21:21:59
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thanks capt, i'll do that no probs, also thanks guys for getting me this far, no doubt back soon,
paul |
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capt.wierd
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Posted - 27/10/2011 : 21:42:10
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| Oops, just to make sure you understand me, the tape I refer to is like ribbon but heavier and some may have an adhesive back. |
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brinzo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/10/2011 : 16:44:45
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| capt, thanks for all the info, but i dont think i can make this tom as good as it could be, both heads are tacked so i cant get to the bubble further back without cutting the wrap at the head, a mate of mine suggested a guy in stockport, k,d,drums may do it, and also i seem to remember a guy at the NDF who was on the stall as you came in on the left, tall, fair hair recond he knew someone who may have a similar wrap, oh he also did the raffle, think jeremy knew him, maybe wrong, |
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FenTiger
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/10/2011 : 17:36:38
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Originally posted by brinzo
capt, thanks for all the info, but i dont think i can make this tom as good as it could be, both heads are tacked so i cant get to the bubble further back without cutting the wrap at the head, a mate of mine suggested a guy in stockport, k,d,drums may do it, and also i seem to remember a guy at the NDF who was on the stall as you came in on the left, tall, fair hair recond he knew someone who may have a similar wrap, oh he also did the raffle, think jeremy knew him, maybe wrong,
Garry Allcock, perhaps? Top left here: http://www.ukdrumfair.com/Contact.html
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brinzo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/10/2011 : 17:44:53
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ok, i got the nod from those who make things appen, and its looking good that we will exhibit the reno once again next year, so any help whatsoever with anything to do with jimmy reno would be appreciated,
must say thanks dug for starting this post,.
paul,. |
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